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Forgeties79 9 hours ago

> until we collectively redefine and enforce a value system that benefits us all

Tons of us called for common sense guard rails and a little bit of actual intention as we rolled out LLM’s, but we were all shouted down as “luddites” who were “obstructing progress.”

We all knew this was coming. It’s been incredibly frustrating knowing how preventable so much of it has been and will continue to be.

Edit: these responses are absurd. Banning GPU’s…? What are you on about? Who said anything about stopping or banning LLM’s? Did none of you see “guardrails”? “A little bit of actual intention”? Where are you getting these extreme interpretations?

I’m talking basic regulatory framework stuff. Regulations around disclosure, usage, access, etc. you know, all the stuff we neglected and are now paying for with social media in droves? We have done this song and dance so many times. No one is going to take away your precious robot helper, we’re just saying “maybe we should think about this for more than two seconds and not be completely blinded by dollar signs.” I mean people have literally died in my state because Zuckerberg wants to save a few bucks building his data center.

It feels like AI evangelists come out the woodwork seething if anybody even implies you shouldn’t be allowed to do literally whatever you want at all times.

iugtmkbdfil834 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sigh, and what guardrails are common sense? Are those the same level of common sense as those advocated for guns ( and narrowed down at every possible opportunity )? Some of us see this tech as possibly revolutionary and thanks to useful individuals calling for muzzling that tech we now have the worst of both worlds: centrally controlled, not really open ( weights are just weights -- though Meta actually deserves some credit here ), and heavily muzzled.

Clearly, powers that be learned all too well from internet rollout.

Forgeties79 5 hours ago | parent [-]

>sigh,

I stopped reading. No point in engaging this if that’s how you’re kicking things off.

CamperBob2 4 hours ago | parent [-]

"Sigh" is indeed a thought-terminating cliche. So is "Common sense."

mat_b 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Except that it's not preventable. Technology is always an arms race. If you don't create it, someone else will, and then they'll have the advantage and subjugate you, so you might as well be the one to do it first. Whatever it is that you're trying to prevent, someone is going to do it if it gives them power.

Forgeties79 6 hours ago | parent [-]

What’s not preventable? What do you think I am saying, exactly?

stevenhuang an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't think even you know what you're saying.

zzzeek 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It wasn't "preventable" though. How would you prevent what's been happening ? Pass a law making GPUs illegal ? Just ..."convince" everyone that the machine that can write working software, business letters and render good enough banner and print advertising for nearly free is evil and just don't use it (ask Emily Bender how that's going)? There is no realistic way from stopping any of this from happening. Need a different approach.

Forgeties79 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I proposed literally none of those solutions or even suggested them.

iugtmkbdfil834 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

<< common sense guard rails and a little bit of actual intention

The issue is that you seem to be proposing nothing but platitudes and when called on it, did not elaborate but high tailed to the cloak of misunderstood defender of sense and sensibility.

4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]
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