| ▲ | WalterBright 14 hours ago |
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| ▲ | tehwebguy 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Yeah the unpunished petty crime is the reason, not the entire economy and every politician existing solely to scam everyone. |
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| ▲ | WalterBright 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We don't punish politicians who run scams, and the result is predictable. | |
| ▲ | mc32 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The thing is that petty crime affects the man and woman on the street and it infects lots of others too who figure out, whelp, I guess this is how it works/ A politician embezzling is bad but you don't experience it directly --but for your tax dollars not doing what they are supposed to be doing. People can put up with a sleazy politician but they can't live comfortably knowing they can't trust their neighbors or trust the police to fight crime for them when the police know DAs will reduce charges, drop charges, etc. Like why bother putting in hard work where you're putting your wellbeing in the balance just so that criminals go unpunished... eventually you end up with a "Caracas" & wild-west experience. | |
| ▲ | inglor_cz 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | These two things don't rule out each other. Quite to the contrary, when we observe rampant cheating from the presidency down to shrinkflating food and freeriding the subway, it is a good argument for having an universal morality problem. There isn't a dichotomy between the saintly people and the scummy political class. A nontrivial part of the voter base of the scummy politicians is formed by regular scummy voters. |
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| ▲ | mc32 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There are many faults with the Japanese justice system --but letting petty crime go doesn't tend to be one of them. I'm glad there are places on earth where they still believe in a structured society where actions have predictable consequences. |
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| ▲ | jdw64 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I have not lived in “the city,” meaning New York, so I cannot speak from direct experience. I agree that trust is not maintained by moral sentiment alone. But the United States is already a society with relatively harsh punishment, and yet it still has a high crime rate. So I do not think law enforcement is the whole explanation. |
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| ▲ | xethos 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's because having to pay the large fine does not deter crime, and bumping the price does not have a major affect. Increasing the odds of getting caught is much more effective. [0] shows states this outright in the abstract [0] https://www.economicstrategygroup.org/wp-content/uploads/202... | |
| ▲ | WalterBright 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Crime rates in NYC move in inverse proportion to enforcement. When the National Guard was deployed in Washington DC, the crime rate plummeted. Crime rates soared in cities that decriminalized shoplifting. |
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