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lamename 10 hours ago

Do you disagree with the point made?

Forgeties79 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If I want a boring, rote LLM answer I will prompt it myself. I don’t read blogs to have a middleman between me and a prompt.

rogerrogerr 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

LLMs are running a gish gallop at Internet scale. It is not necessary or possible to disprove every sequence of tokens that emerges from one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

recursive 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Forming a human opinion about slop is like asymmetrical warfare. Or maybe a closer analogy is a Gish Gallop. It can be generated with way less effort than it takes to comprehend it, much less form a coherent opinion on it.

jraph 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It matters whether something is written using an LLM even if we put aside the ethical aspects. Firstly, if your text is deadly boring to read, your point might not get across optimally and one might not just be interesting reading slop. Secondly, you might just been reading the LLM's opinion, and I'm just not interested neither. Thirdly, even if you are just using the LLM as an assistant, we know that your opinion itself may be influenced by the suggestions and since you are still under the impression you are writing yourself (which you are somewhat, not saying), you may internalize the suggestions as your own opinion. There are recent (probably imperfect) studies about this stuff.

lamename 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I mostly agree with everything you said. Do you feel the same way about code written by an LLM?

jraph 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm fortunate enough not to have been knowingly exposed to LLM generated code of big enough size yet, and haven't run into studies about this (to be fair, I'm not actively looking for them although I'd be quite interested). I imagine the stakes are quite different for code, it's not really opinions. On the topic of boringness I'm afraid I don't have the required experience to know how LLM generated / assisted code feels when reading it.

In particular, I have never had the curiosity of going to one of those vibe coded weekend projects' repository and peek at the code. Now that I think about it, maybe I should! Thanks for making me reflect on this.

I am concerned that one day I'll run into a PR that superficially looks good but that's badly structured in non immediately obvious ways or that has subtle errors due to the author not knowing well what they are doing. And on the longer term, that a code base with too many such contributions ends up being fragile and difficult to work with.

In any case I suppose I'll be looking for places to work where LLMs are not or little tolerated if they keep being a notable thing in the longer term.