DOGE made the mistake of not making a sham trial and court. There was a brutal deposition where they were asking a barely beyond teenager how he had the technical experience to determine if particular grants/projects were DEI, and it was clear he hadn't been properly informed of the magic phrases bureaucrats are to say to questions like these when confronted. Cops and other entrenched professionals always get the training to answer this properly by arguing they got the right training by the right bullshit artists with the right PhDs with the right expert witnesses to say "yuh, what he said." "consistent with my training and experience" yada yada, ask the expert witness who developed our process, who we have in our pocket....

If DOGE had any foresight, they would have done what the rest of government does (including the DEI people) and create some bullshit academic program that pumps out "credentialed" bullshit artists that explain their PhD in anti-DEI qualifies them and then absolutely flood anyone contesting it with a pile of paperwork mumbo-jumbo of so many reasons they never will have the time to disprove them all .

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hdhdhsjsbdh 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I find this aggressively anti-intellectual, anti-expert strain of thought pretty concerning. Bureaucratic bullshit exists, for sure, but not every single system that requires credentials and expertise to navigate effectively is self-evidently bullshit. This attitude taken to its extreme creates deeply corrupt institutions that run entirely on nepotism, bribery, favors.

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croes 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

DOGE made the mistake to put people without proper knowledge in positions that require knowledge.

How is the COBOL port to Java going?

	▲	mothballed 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		No, I don't think that was it. How many cops have been able to bullshit Ouija (drug) dogs as PC while just deferring to the "experts" to bullshit how they're trained and how a dog that barely works better than a coin flip is a legally valid process for establishing PC? As long as they have some document that shows they followed the process vetted by some expert witness that has had 5 years of practice on creating so much bullshit artistry you can never disprove it all without going bankrupt, then they usually get away with. There's endless armies of people (immigration 'judges' are a big one) that do totally fraudulent process but because it's dressed up in all the right deflective language and credentialism it gets a pass. DOGE was new enough they didn't brief their employees on all the magic mumbo jumbo phrases to say yet. Given a few more years and you'd have people doing the exact same damn thing except answering depositions with the right magic deflections that they'd get away with it. Given more time, they'd have their DEI legal equivalent of a drug dog.

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tootie 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

DOGE was absolute nonsense from top to bottom. I was convinced it was purely a scam, but some exit interviews seem to indicate they really believed their own hype. Musk saying they'd find $1-2T in savings just by looking at stuff with AI was preposterous. And they brought in a squad of pathologically optimistic kids who believed him. They were so grossly inexperienced and irrational that they really thought they could put budgets into a spreadsheet type "Find the fraud" into ChatGPT and find anything useful and were surprised when they didn't. Then they repeatedly lied about their progress. You can't expect any level of operational sophistication or political savvy from a team that inept.