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Robdel12 an hour ago

Literally everything you listed can be done with any SUV.

BobaFloutist an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Or, better yet, a minivan.

People think they want a pickup truck, or an SUV, or a Cybertruck, but what they really want is a hybrid Toyota Sienna.

alooPotato 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

can't fit 4 bikes in a minivan . on my previous SUV I had a rear rack and its such a PITA

alooPotato 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

have you used FSD? Have you used the best self driving from other manufacturers? I have. Its no comparison. I turn on FSD and it drives me driveway to driveway to a place in the mountains 4 hours away. I don't touch the wheel.

cucumber3732842 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You "can" put three kids in the back of a Honda Civic. You "can" tow 10k with a Ford Ranger. They're both kind of a sucky experience for all parties involved and it makes perfect sense why people who can afford a vehicle with way more capacity go that route. It makes things that take care and precision and thought as mindless as throwing a light switch. They're not paying for capability, they're paying to make it easy.

I own a station wagon, a minivan, a pickup truck and a hatch (and my spouse drives a boring crossover). I completely understand why "buy a crew cab truck" has become the norm for people who want to just write one check a month to cover every use case.

Additionally, frequent "truck" usage is an absolute menace on wagon/minivan interiors.

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