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auggierose 2 hours ago

I think the assumption about non-profits being altruistic is a reasonable one, because what would otherwise be the justification for giving them tax breaks?

If the reality is different, then maybe there shouldn't be non-profits anymore. In the UK for example, there are no non-profits, there are only charities. And clearly, the expectation of altruism is explicit here.

skippyboxedhero an hour ago | parent | next [-]

There are non-profits in the UK. Some of these structures are over 100 years old at this point.

Expectations are completely irrelevant. Charities steal, in the UK the largest charities are essentially run as private companies except the shareholders are employees. Same thing with government, there was a unit of the government that spun out to a "non-profit" structure, some of the civil servants ended up becoming shareholders, and they now lobby their friends in the civil service to use their services...afaik, the government is still their only major customer and they were at, for example, all the pandemic meetings. Just generally, the UK has a vast network of these organizations that have a significant role in government policy but are totally outside the government (this is also true, actually even more so, in devolved countries...to a large extent, government policy there is formed by unelected private institutions).

There are no real rules here beyond humans act self-interestedly. No structure will contain this. This happens in for-profit companies with shareholders too. Principal-agent problem.

keybored 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do for-profits become altruistic when corporations get tax breaks? Edit: I’m replying to the “reasonable one” point.

auggierose an hour ago | parent [-]

Not sure why this would matter. You know that implication is directional, not symmetric, right?

To be more explicit: Given that for-profits can be given tax-breaks for (hopefully) good reasons, what would be the reason to give non-profits tax-breaks, if not for altruism? After all, as you point out yourself, you can get tax-breaks also as a for-profit, so you don't need non-profits just for that reason.

keybored an hour ago | parent [-]

I’ll ask my mother if I was dropped on the head as a child.

auggierose an hour ago | parent [-]

Oh, I am sorry if that was the case. I amended my answer to be more explicit, as I already anticipated that you are not into logic.