| ▲ | hagbard_c 9 hours ago |
| "Cliché parroting" makes for a nice sound bite but in this case it is not the best description of what the parent does. If you want to use a two-word phrase to describe his claim I'd go for "pattern recognition" to which I'd concur that yes, indeed, there is a clear pattern of blue states and cities [...] being obstructionist and sheltering criminals. |
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| ▲ | defrost 9 hours ago | parent [-] |
| Criminals or as yet undocumented immigrants who have yet to complete their paperwork given the slow grind of US processing? Other countries deal with such things by immediately granting an in processing status. The US appears to have a cartoonish approach to good / evil that's just comical from a distance. |
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| ▲ | hagbard_c 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Those who go through the official migration paths - in the U.S.A. or elsewhere, doesn't matter - are not "illegal aliens" so that word play with "as yet undocumented immigrants" doesn't hold. People who are waiting for their paperwork to go through the official channels will have some form of proof of their application status. If they were told they could await the results while in the U.S.A they're not illegal aliens, if they were told to await permission outside of the U.S.A they are. Those who cross the border with the intent to stay without legal permission are "illegal aliens" and are in violation of whatever laws cover migration - 8 US code § 1325 in the U.S.A, artikel 197 Wetboek van Strafrecht (for those declared unwanted) and artikel 61-67 Vreemdelingenwet in the Netherlands, etc. Some of these illegal aliens violate other (criminal) laws which makes them "criminal illegal aliens" but everyone who stays in a country - any country - without legal permission has violated whatever laws cover migration into that country. |
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