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uxp100 11 hours ago

I also believe some in the administration want chaos. But also consider that Iran is legitimately hard to negotiate with and the negotiators have no experience with highly technical negotiations around nuclear enrichment. Like, I don’t think Trump wants chaos, actually.

bayarearefugee 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> But also consider that Iran is legitimately hard to negotiate with

It is really strange how when you offer to negotiate with the leaders of a country as a pretext to assassinate them... twice... it becomes difficult to negotiate with those who replace them.

Nobody could have seen this coming.

cosmicgadget 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The thing he wants least of all is to appear to have lost. Unfortunately for many, he thought he could bomb the Iranians into submission.

Swenrekcah 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I agree Iran must be hard to negotiate with but they haven’t even tried. Obama’s nuclear deal took years of work and involved multiple countries. When Vance didn’t get his way in a single meeting he quit?

Also maybe Trump doesn’t want chaos but I doubt he runs the show so much at this point.

convolvatron 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

the entire war was looking really pointless and trump was left looking like a chump. none of the negotiations would let him walk away with anything looking like a win. a resumption of hostilities at least paints the illusion of progress towards..something

yongjik 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wonder how much what Trump wants matters any more w.r.t. Iran. Trump kicked a hornets' nest. Now it's the hornets' turn to decide when (or if) they'll let him walk away.

I mean, what's Trump going to do? Murder Iranian leaders harder?

behole 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anything to obfuscate the Trump-Epstien Files™ Chaos is trumps baseline.