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baggy_trough 6 hours ago

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JumpCrisscross 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> California leaders have done everything they possibly can to chase refiners out of state

The refiners are running out of crude. Having more refiners wouldn’t solve the problem.

linksnapzz 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's plenty of crude oil in CA. Certainly enough for California's needs, in fact.

JumpCrisscross 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> There's plenty of crude oil in CA. Certainly enough for California's needs

California has 1.7 billion barrels of proven reserves [1] and imports 373 million barrels a year [2]. That's 5 years of imports in the ground. (At current rates, California depletes its proven reserves in 2040.)

[1] https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=R...

[2] https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/califo...

john_strinlai 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

that is not my understanding or what is implied in the article. where would i go to find this fact?

Barbing 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Also that poster forgot LA smog of yore!

__loam 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is a good reason to move our infrastructure further off of being dependent on a highly volatile region actually.

smlacy 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How about just ditching this disgusting use of a finite resource and switch to an infinitely abundant resource?

conradev 5 hours ago | parent [-]

There’s this crazy thing that happens where you need to use carbon to decarbonize.

Solar panels are made in factories where energy and inputs are cheaper and then shipped on diesel cargo ships to the rest of the world.

Our cars run on gas, so we need new electric ones, but the ships and car carriers are themselves… not electric yet.

Because energy is more expensive, everything is more expensive, including electrification.