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| 150 points by speckx an hour ago | 33 comments | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ruleryak 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Last year was tough - it rained for hours 5 nights in a row and the first rain night was accompanied by 70 mile an hour winds that did a massive amount of damage to camp infrastructure throughout the city. The roads in half the city were ruined by emergency traffic that kept on running throughout the storms, and the result was a lumpy nightmare that shook things loose from cars and bikes at a much higher rate than most years. The mud absorbed and hid things and made cleanup a far more grueling process than it usually is. We endured and did our best to still find and remove everything - breaking up mud clumps and raking/sifting through the dirt at the end of the week to find all that embedded trash. There are no public trash cans, no event dumpsters, etc. I can say from having been there almost every year since 07 that this was by far the hardest year for "mooping" - the process of spotting and picking up any item that shouldn't be on the ground - but that the group mindset endured and we somehow still trended downward in terms of overall trash. I think the main difference between this and 2023 (the previous "mud burn") was that this time we had all the rain in the first half of the event, and then had relatively great weather for the second half. In 23, it closed out with the mud and people fleeing, leading to a spike. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Waterluvian 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I won't pretend I grok the underlying spirit of Burning Man. But I find it deeply fascinating to see the interaction between desires for counterculture, anarchy, free spirit, etc. and the benefit and ultimate necessity of organization, planning, rules... governance, essentially. And where there's those things, there's always maps and data. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | swerner 2 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If you think that’s dedication: I met Dominic (DA) who they interviewed in this article almost 20 years ago in the Spanish desert, where taught us Euroburners the art of MOOP cleanup. He’s been at it for a long time now. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jobs_throwaway 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Actually an enormous whitepill on Burning Man. Modest amounts of debris, real accountability, and improvement over time despite overall growth. You really can't ask for much more. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | childofhedgehog an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So a giant party can clean up after itself, but 4th of July in Tahoe for example is a toxic mess. I wish more people would practice these principles. It’s impressive how well this is cleaned up. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | cmiles8 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
My respect for Burning Man just went up a lot. These big events usually leave a giant mess behind. Glad to see they take the cleanup and restoration so seriously. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | zootboy 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sounds to me like there ought to be a MOOP cleanup deposit charged upfront, that only gets returned after this inspection. If the cleanup crew has to clean your site, you forfeit part or all of your deposit. Repeat offenders get charged increased deposits each time. Repeat inoffenders(?) get their deposit reduced. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | charles_f an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> its release inevitably fuels a bit of public finger-pointing Is this what's helping with that? > the most striking trend is that the community has steadily improved at Leave No Trace Probably not only? But shame and avoidance of shame can be good motivation | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | john_strinlai 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
the full map image for 2025: https://webassets.burningman.org/largeimages/MOOP_Map_2025_0... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | rdl 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If the issue are tent stakes/lag bolts which get buried under surface, clear solution would be metal detectors available to borrow/rent (or brought by each camp). Also probably could do a drone or ground robot with a metal detecting loop on the bottom. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | gorfian_robot 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
the moop map used to be a analog creation with pics of it uploaded every day of the resto(ration) process. some years ago they switched to digital tools and now they don't release it for several months after the event. huh. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | fontain 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> In 2025, lag bolts were by far the biggest problem. They anchor tents, art pieces, and other infrastructure into the ground, and can easily disappear beneath the dust. I thought of a few potential solutions but then clicked through to the journal entry for last year and it turns out they're way ahead, the journal article is very interesting with some ideas: https://journal.burningman.org/2026/03/black-rock-city/leavi... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Worf 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Is "plant matter" weed? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | soared an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Imagine if environmental regulation, pollution, etc looked like this. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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