| ▲ | nathanmills 4 hours ago |
| Keep in mind that it's FREE and OPEN SOURCE software |
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| ▲ | 2ndorderthought 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I remember my car broke down, it was trash worth maybe 200 in scrap metal at the time. The tow to the yard was like 100 or something. I was screwed and couldn't get rides to work. My buddy lent me a car he had for free. I did not complain once to anyone about the things wrong with that car, and I never will. I even fixed some small issues with it to return the favor. The guy and that car saved my livelihood at the time. I realize that's a little dramatic. I also think people are allowed to raise issues. But the entitlement and the way people talk about free software is annoying. Especially when alternatives cost as much as a used or new car. If you have a Ferrari pallete for software then I hope there's an alternative that satisfies that for free, if so say so, otherwise shut up, contribute, or pay the Ferrari dollars already. |
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| ▲ | nkrisc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Potential users like honest reviews and criticisms of open source software. It helps us decide if it’s worth using or not. |
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| ▲ | simonh 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Firstly developers and designers of OSS need honest feedback from users as well, not just commercial developers. Secondly, how does being OSS justify significant regressions? |
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| ▲ | nathanmills 26 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | As an open-source developer, feedback is about 1% of what I need. Contributions are the other 99%. However, the reality is flipped where what I get is 99% feedback (issues/feature requests in the issue tracker) and 1% contributions. And this is not a "significant regression", I use Inkscape very often for graphics work and it works great for me. And it does not "justify" regressions, but if you are not willing to fix it yourself, you have no right to do anything other than kindly request a fix, not complain about it. And btw, I don't search hacker news for "feedback", I search my issue tracker. | |
| ▲ | trwired 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There seems to be pervasive opinion among FOSS enthusiasts that the software being free and volunteer made is kind of get out of jail card for not only criticism, but often simply just feedback. I deeply appreciate that FOSS exists. But - subjective feeling - in general it always had certain reputation for jankiness and user unfriendliness. Sniping down feedback "because the software is free" certainly contributes to that perception. If I have a choice between free, volunteer made software that's unreliable or doesn't even work for some of my use cases, and a commercial, but non-free product, I will be pragmatic about it and choose the latter. | | | |
| ▲ | 2ndorderthought 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Because the authors don't owe you anything. You aren't giving them a single thing. They don't have to justify a thing. There is no SLA, no contract, nothing. Feedback is fine, but there are so comments being things like "ermahgerd I paid nothing for this thing and a feature wasn't working What the actual F!". Go file an issue and fix it yourself buddy. | | |
| ▲ | richardlblair 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The feedback wasn't that though. The worst thing they said was that it was "kinda disappointing". Which is perfectly valid. They really want to use inkscape but can't. | | | |
| ▲ | chongli 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Users don’t owe the authors anything either. If they want to ignore longstanding complaints, they can toil in obscurity. Heck the only reason this post made the front page of HN is because of lingering goodwill that was built up when the software was actually decent. Now that it’s regressed into uselessness, the goodwill is drying up. I, frankly, don’t have any interest in the software anymore, since it was rendered unusable. I recommend everyone steer clear of it as well. | | |
| ▲ | 2ndorderthought 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't think it really matters if they are on the front page of HN. It's free software they don't need to market it right? Maybe it helps them find people willing to contribute to the issues though. So there is that. You are free to do that. I've only used inkscape like half a dozen times. It was fine for me. | |
| ▲ | cwillu 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | “uselessness” he says… | | |
| ▲ | 2ndorderthought 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not a big inkscape user or a big fan but last time I used it that was absolutely not a word that approached my mind... ... |
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