Honestly... No thanks. It's 2026, those who do not own a domain name should buy one an run their own Matrix/XMPP server.

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interf4ce 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think that's the target audience here.

Proton makes safer, more private (than, say, Gmail) email a possibility for people who don't have much technical knowledge but who know enough to want to keep their emails out of Google's hands.

If you have both the knowledge and time to run a server, by all means, that can make sense (and can be fun!). It's just not as widely applicable.

	▲	kkfx 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You send emails to @gmail addresses most of the time, so... How you can avoid giving Alphabet (or some other giant) your messages? The point of ownership is having your mails in your hand, on your iron, anything who can talk IMAPs or even POP is ok for that. For voice/chat etc Matrix or XMPP might be yours, so nobody could decide to ban you or shut the service down. You still depend on a ISP ok, but much less dependencies anyway. That's the point IMVHO. While thinking that company X is better in privacy terms than company Y is honestly meaningless, you can trust them or not, you don't know what happen on their servers or someone else ones where they actually live on (like using Amazon o Microsoft cloud as a backend).

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john_strinlai 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

most of the world has no need and no desire to do any of that. and i dont blame them, either. this is super-nerd level of advice.

proton meet is already targeting a really niche set of customers, and you're taking it to another level.

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joecot 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or you can just run Jitsi Meet. E2EE is built in but you also have control of the server and the traffic to and from is encrypted

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teekert 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Someone's bubble needs popping.