| ▲ | cromka 6 hours ago |
| China will likely become the go-to place for immigrants within couple decades. Just like any other developed economy had. |
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| ▲ | strictnein 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| That would be quite the change, considering they don't really allow any outsiders to become citizens. |
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| ▲ | cromka 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Neither do UAE or Hong Kong, and see how this ever stopped immigrants from making them immigrant-first economies. If anything, if you can successfully attract immigrants with a residency only, you get the best of both worlds. | |
| ▲ | Arubis 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Does it matter? If a permanent resident class exists (de facto is fine, if not legal), what would those folks be missing out on that citizenship would confer? You can’t legalize your way to cultural assimilation, and it’s not like the CCP would tolerate a meaningful vote. |
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| ▲ | HerbManic 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I do wonder about this. With demographic collapse coming for almost all nations, or with a notable trend line for it to come, what would happen if other nations basically prevent emigration? Better to keep their people than lose them. Alternatively, those with large populations can use this as a bargaining chip in trade negotiations. The coming decades will be interesting. |
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| ▲ | bobomonkey 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | When Europe lost a tone of people to disease, wages went up, housing was cheep and people made families. Sadly, big business wants cheap labor so we can't have nice things. |
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| ▲ | 10xDev 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This has yet to happen in East Asia and probably never will. America and countries that engaged in worldwide colonisation are the exception not the rule. |
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| ▲ | dyauspitr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don’t think so. They have a massive working population and foreign entrepreneurship is hard there. Also they have no process of assimilation and are pretty openly hostile to outsiders. If anything you might see low skilled immigrant labor moving there but I don’t think there’s going to be large numbers of high skilled workers moving there. |
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| ▲ | mytailorisrich 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I doubt it because the Chinese are very protective of their homogeneity and see what has happened in Europe as a massive cautionary tale. So my guess is that they will be very picky and control both quality and numbers tightly. |
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| ▲ | gambiting 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | >>and see what has happened in Europe as a massive cautionary tale As a European - what has happened to us, exactly? I'm curious what kind of thing you think is happening to Europe that is such disaster that even China should be afraid of it. | | |
| ▲ | mytailorisrich 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Mass immigration in Europe and its effects. In China and neighbouring countries it is seen as crazy and something to absolutely avoid. | | |
| ▲ | gambiting 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | >>Mass immigration in Europe and its effects. Can you name a few of these effects that China sees as crazy? | | |
| ▲ | BoingBoomTschak 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Complete demographic destruction waved off with "who cares" by the natives, strongly impoverished national culture and "3rd world problems" that any slightly attractive woman living in the city could tell you about? I'm french, btw. | | |
| ▲ | amanaplanacanal 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ha! In the US women don't need to wait for immigrants to be abused or assaulted. Native born Americans do it. | | |
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| ▲ | 10xDev 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | European GDP per capita has not grown since the crash in 2008. Ever since we have heard that immigrants are being imported for jobs, yet the economy only gets worse, house prices increases due to supply and demand and crime rate is not equal among groups. Yes some people are just white supremacists but also, immigration hasn't solved anything in Europe in recent times. It is not like the US where you have a massive startup scene and get an Elon Musk from South Africa to create jobs and add meaningful value. | | |
| ▲ | tssva 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Not getting an Elon Musk seems like a massive positive. | |
| ▲ | gambiting 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >>Ever since we have heard that immigrants are being imported for jobs You do realize that most of European migration is internal, right? Polish workers going to Germany, that kind of thing? It would be like complaining that American migration is crazy because of all the people moving from Kansas to take jobs in California. >> house prices increases due to supply and demand and crime rate is not equal among groups As compared to....? >>It is not like the US where you have a massive startup scene and get an Elon Musk from South Africa to create jobs and add meaningful value. I'm like, honestly not sure what to say to that. I could maybe start listing successful businesses started and/or ran by immigrants in the EU if that helps? Or is the fact that none of them are as famous as Elon Musk a dealbreaker? | | |
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