| ▲ | negzero7 6 hours ago |
| The problem is that the leaders told us that if you got the vaccine you would be immune and not get COVID. The performances of the politicians and medical professionals mandating masking and then seeing them only putting them on right before they went on stage, and continuing to do all of the things the "common" folk weren't allowed to do ruined all of the their credibility. Of course people are going to question all of the recommendations from experts after that. |
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| ▲ | suzzer99 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > The problem is that the leaders told us that if you got the vaccine you would be immune and not get COVID. That's a straw man. Nobody in authority said this once the vaccine was out and it was obvious that immunity wasn't 100% or permanent. All vaccines are different. No one knew until it came out what category this vaccine would fall into. You can still get measles after getting the measles vaccine. But you're much much less likely to die from it. What the vaccine did do is greatly reduce the severity of the disease, which saved countless lives. See Wuhan, Northern Italy or NYC before lockdown. If the vaccine didn't work, as soon as lockdown ended, the hospitals would have filled to over capacity like they were in those places in the early days. |
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| ▲ | ceejayoz 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I do recall some politicians being, at the very least, imprecise on that issue. But I note that the "a politician was wrong once, therefore vaccines can't be trusted" folks don't tend to extend that theory to things like "tax cuts cause economic booms" or "abstinence only sex ed is super effective" sort of statements that have repeatedly flopped in tests. | |
| ▲ | negzero7 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Here's a compilation of repeated talking points during COVID. https://x.com/Martyupnorth_/status/1471694954002980866?s=20 | | |
| ▲ | suzzer99 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | No one's going to watch your dubiously-sourced video. Send some links of people in authority claiming the vaccine offers 100% immunity to covid. | | |
| ▲ | suzzer99 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | (Responding to the reply below) Yeah okay she spoke out of turn very early after the vaccine was out for a short time. The CDC sucked a lot through this, especially when they refused to recommend masks. But you notice pretty much all of her own underlings are immediately refuting her. To cling to "They told us you wouldn't get covid" when 99% of the people in authority were not saying that, and the few who might have said it were quickly corrected, is disingenuous imo. The CDC kind of sucks to be honest, and it sure isn't better with the current leadership. But it doesn't mean they're wrong on everything. And the CDC's suckiness is a flimsy excuse to just believe anyone on youtube, regardless of scientific evidence. | |
| ▲ | utdoctor 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | “Our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick,” Walensky said on MSNBC last weekend, adding “that is not just in the clinical trials, but it’s also in real world data.” https://nationalpost.com/news/world/backlash-and-reversal-af... |
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| ▲ | brendoelfrendo 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| There's two categories of people here, though. Politicians advocating for one thing and then doing another are not medical professionals advocating for people to get a COVID vaccine. You shouldn't look at what politicians are doing and then decide you trust doctors less. |