huh. i honestly never thought they were all that different. didn't the same guy coin them both to refer to the same thing?

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simonw an hour ago | parent [-]

Not at all. Andrej Karpathy coined vibe coding as: https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383

> where you fully give in to the vibes, embrace exponentials, and forget that the code even exists [...] It's not too bad for throwaway weekend projects, but still quite amusing. I'm building a project or webapp, but it's not really coding - I just see stuff, say stuff, run stuff, and copy paste stuff, and it mostly works.

So clearly we need a term for what happens when experienced, professional software engineers use LLM tooling as part of a responsible development process, taking full advantage of their existing expertise and with a goal to produce good, reliable software.

"Agentic engineering" is a good candidate for that.

	▲	dev360 23 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> as part of a responsible development process, taking full advantage of their existing expertise and with a goal to produce good, reliable software Its shifted so much for me. I used to think that I had a solemn duty to read every line and understand it, or to write all the test cases. Then I started noticing that tools like CodeRabbit, or Cursor would find things in my code that I would rarely find myself. I think right now, its shifted my perception of my role to one where I am responsible for "tilting" the agentic coding loop; ultimately the goal is a matter of ensuring the agent learns from its mistakes, self-organize and embrace a spirit of Kaizen. Btw thank you for your work on Django, last 20 years with it were life changing (I did .NET before).