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SilverElfin 3 hours ago

> As part of this agreement, we have also expressed interest in partnering with SpaceX to develop multiple gigawatts of orbital AI compute capacity.

Disgusting. For an allegedly not evil company, they’re very willing to pollute our night skies as well as partner up with a CEO who has been fanning the flames of extremism (particularly the emboldened racists / supremacists of the far right).

treme 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

CEO that accelerated eletric car industry by 10 years

CEO that accelerated space industry by 10+ years

CEO that accelerated HCI industry by 10 years

triceratops 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> CEO that accelerated eletric car industry by 10 years

China was doing this regardless. It was a national security issue for them.

SilverElfin 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m sure that’ll comfort all the minorities affected by the rampant amplification of extremists on Twitter. I don’t disagree those are big achievements but also they’re irrelevant to those who feel the impact of Musk’s own extremism, and their lives would be unchanged if none of the Musk companies existed. If you’re unaffected by racism then it’s going to feel easy to only look at the positives of Musk.

etchalon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A person can do good and bad things.

croes 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pablo Escobar built hospitals. Ted Bundy saved lives on a suicide hotline

so what?

Nobody is 100% evil

Musk helped dismantling USAID which leads to many people’s death.

nobankai 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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noworriesnate 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I doubt it'll ever happen because heat dissipation will be a big problem, but this is likely in response to the proliferation of data centers. I would rather have data centers in space than convert countryside to concrete and metal jungles.

woah 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Once they send the cooling water up into orbit, it's gone for good

bigyabai 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"HN pretends that companies have morals: Part 48,037,986"

slopinthebag 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Counterpoint: Valve

Which is kind of like the exception that proves the rule hahaha

minimaxir 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You haven't been following the discourse around a) how Steam handles GenAI disclosures and b) how Steam handles forum/review moderation.

People haven't been saying "GabeN can do no wrong" for awhile.

slopinthebag 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I was motivated to post this because I was just reading a thread where many users were praising Valve and GabeN for how their company is run, but I'm curious to read more about A & B.

bigyabai 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Valve isn't moral, they're just privately owned. CS cases have given them enough fuck-you money to rehabilitate their image in any way they see fit.

richwater 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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josefresco 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It is very much a valid argument. SpaceX has been working on this issue for years.

https://theconversation.com/a-million-new-spacex-satellites-...

FTA: "SpaceX has done a lot of engineering work to make its Starlink satellites fainter. They are still too bright for research astronomy, but thanks to new coatings, their brightness has not increased dramatically even as SpaceX has launched larger and larger satellites."

skeledrew 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I acknowledge there's an issue here, but I don't think it makes sense to label it "pollution". When something is polluted it generally means using it can lead to some form of harm, directly or indirectly. I fail to see how confusing satellites for stars stars causes harm, per se (though of course it would suck to be an astronomer).

robotresearcher 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You don’t see the harm, but it would suck to be an astronomer?

akarlsten 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Starlink constellations will lead to a world where there is absolutely nowhere you can go where you cant see man-made junk. No truly pristine wilderness anywhere without being able to see formations of glowing dots helping "off-grid" idiots stream Netflix. It's spiritually harmful if nothing else.

Also who said pollution has to be harmful? Light pollution is a thing, and this is the same class of problem.

Why dont they dip the satellites in vantablack to make them truly invisible?

richwater an hour ago | parent [-]

You argument seems to hinge on Starlink not being a massive improvement to how non-broadband connected folk get internet. Your crusade against "offgrid" idiots is intentionally dense as it ignores the millions of people who will be able to access the internet.

SilverElfin 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Of course it’s a serious argument. Anyone using telescopes or doing Astro photography now sees Starlink satellites leaving trails all over the place. And that’s with a small number compared to the 1 million satellites they are proposing. It’s a public resource that a private company is stealing from all of us.

richwater an hour ago | parent [-]

You don't seem to understand image stacking technology or the deployment procedures of starlink satellites.

> It’s a public resource that a private company is stealing from all of us

Just because the government can't accomplish what private industry is doing doesn't mean it's "stealing".

morpheos137 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

orbital data center == scam company. if you don't understand physics or economics why should i trust you in simpler things. if you do understand are are lying why should i trust you. anthropic and their holier than though SV brand is cooked.