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zelon88 2 hours ago

And CloudFlare engineers sleep comfily at night knowing that they just produced 800 lbs of carbon emissions to generate a static "Hello World" HTML page.

I see the amount of work that gets put into these workflows and it boggles my mind that anyone thinks that it's faster or easier or more convinient or more cost efffective than installing a LAMP stack on one of the 6 laptops they have stuffed in a closet. God forbid anyone have any native local capability.

unglaublich 2 hours ago | parent [-]

But they paid for the emission just like every other electricity consumer? Then who are we to determine the Hello World page is morally more wasteful than outdoor terrace heaters or advertising jumbo-trons?

zelon88 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I hear your argument. However, you assume CloudFlare pays taxes and utility rates comparable to what other customers pay. That is never the case with large businesses. CloudFlare seems to be less parasitic than others in the industry, but they are not doing this for the charity.

For example, in 2024 JPMorgan received a $77m subsidy to build a datacenter that created only one permanent job.

https://nysfocus.com/2026/04/20/data-center-tax-break-jpmorg...

charcircuit an hour ago | parent [-]

Why should that matter? If a counterparty gives them a deal they should take it.