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codingdave 12 hours ago

> an entire app ready to be used today.

That is exactly where the disagreement stems from. That app is a draft version that might work for a couple people. It won't scale. It won't be secure. It won't handle edge cases. It won't be flexible enough to iterate based on customer feedback.

That doesn't mean LLM-assisted code has no value. It does mean the guidance needed to go from "v000.1" to something you could actually build a business upon is still significant.

Will LLMs bridge that gap more in the future? Maybe. But honestly, hopefully not. Instead, I hope they stop just churning out the same CRUD apps and wrappers that we did a few years ago and do something new. Because if all they do is: What humans do, just faster... cool, useful, but not worth all the hype.

LLMs are useful tools. I use them. But just like the hammer that sits on my shelf and also gets used, they are just a tool. They won't be truly interesting (to me, at least) unless they are doing things that humans cannot do.

coldtea 12 hours ago | parent [-]

>That is exactly where the disagreement stems from. That app is a draft version that might work for a couple people. It won't scale. It won't be secure. It won't handle edge cases. It won't be flexible enough to iterate based on customer feedback.

As if startup code doesn't have the same issues pre-AI? And still they get to billions of valuations with such code.

They can always pay some beefier consultants when they absolutely have to, for scaling it up or hardening it.

That "it won't be flexible enough to iterate based on customer feedback" is more wishful thinking. It would be code like any other code, following some patterns. In fact, the architecture can be fine tuned by the human in the loop anyway - they just wont be needed 5 more humans to assist them to code it.

>Because if all they do is: What humans do, just faster... cool, useful, but not worth all the hype.

That's literally what automation in any field is. Why should be something more, as if this huge breakthrough is already taken for granted within a few years of being available?