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comrade1234 9 hours ago

These don't have normal ram, right? The ram is part of the die of the processor? So... what's going on? They're keeping the chips for themselves? They're moving production to other lower memory configurations? But why? That's where demand is? Probably more demand at higher memory though?

I'd buy one or two but I can't stick them in a Colo because they don't have LOM or dual power supplies but I've been seriously thinking about buying one and just keeping it at home and having my Colo servers talking to it for local deepseek.

Not a high priority though considering how cheap deepseek is.

cayleyh 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The ram is "unified" meaning it's a single shared between CPU and GPU, and it's "on package", meaning the RAM chips are packaged together with the CPU / GPU die, but it's just regular old RAM chips.

You can clearly see this in the shot of the Mini mobo: CPU/GPU ASIC with 2 separate ram chips packaged next to them: https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/Mac-mini...

tkcranny 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s still dedicated ram on a separate chip, which is affected by supply shortages.

The ram is soldered onto the SoC in close proximity to the main arm chip. What’s different is that it is simultaneously addressable by cpu and gpu cores, not part of the same die as the apple silicon unit.

nicoburns 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> But why?

So they don't have to stop producing machines entirely because they've run out of RAM chips. The problem they have is with supply not demand.

comrade1234 9 hours ago | parent [-]

They don't use ram chips?

nicoburns 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They do. They just solder them onto their SOCs (as part of the manufacturing process of the SOC). But they can't do that if they haven't got any.

piskov 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It is still ram, not some magic thing

Still LPDDR

rasz 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Its normal POP (package on package) ram. Apple marketing somehow managed to convince public its magic special HMB.

wat10000 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same package, but separate die. It’s still competing with all the other RAM buyers.