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| ▲ | pc86 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | What makes you think the government is remotely qualified to run a canning operation, a logistics operation, a warehousing operation, an HR operation, and a finance operation for peaches? Also which government? Because there are at least 3-5 relevant ones here, maybe more. | | |
| ▲ | hnthrow0287345 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | >What makes you think the government is remotely qualified to run a canning operation, a logistics operation, a warehousing operation, an HR operation, and a finance operation for peaches? That'd actually be quite easy for this particular federal government actually (current administration aside). And probably California too. | | | |
| ▲ | throw0101c 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > What makes you think the government is remotely qualified to run a canning operation, a logistics operation, a warehousing operation, an HR operation, and a finance operation for peaches? The DoD (for one) runs lots of logistics, warehousing, HR (2.8M), and finance stuff. | |
| ▲ | _DeadFred_ 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The government is able to do all of this for an entire literal army of people, spread across the entire world. And for an additional smaller army we call the Marines. Only difference is we add peaches on top of the canning of lead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_City_Army_Ammunition_Plan... | |
| ▲ | masfuerte 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm not saying this is a good idea, but the government doesn't need to know how to micromanage these operations. The company already has employees who can do these things. All they need is to get paid. If the government decided that the final harvest of peaches needed to be canned, they could take over the business and pay to make it happen. edit: Actually, they don't even need to take over the business. Another company is already operating it. The government could simply sign a contract to buy the 50,000 tons of canned peaches and the company would can them. Again, not to endorse the idea, but it is very straightforward logistically. |
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| ▲ | nradov 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | When governments take over food production the people starve. | |
| ▲ | tracker1 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Do you really want a world without any fast food or snack foods? I mean, I think we consume way too much as a society, but I'd rather not have the government decide what I'm allowed to eat. Have a conversation with someone who grew up in communist USSR/Russia sometime... It definitely isn't cool. If we had govt controlled food supply, we'd never have the likes of hot sauce (sriracha, pace, etc) and would likely never have seen a lot of options form. For better and far, far worse. | | |
| ▲ | hnthrow0287345 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | >but I'd rather not have the government decide what I'm allowed to eat. I don't know how it'd get to that if we had even more supply. I'm saying we'd be better off dealing with the problems of overproduction rather than the problems of unprofitable businesses and killing production capacity because it isn't profitable in the short-term. I also never said you couldn't have non/not-for-profit food production, just that they shouldn't be for-profit. | | |
| ▲ | tracker1 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's difficult because a lot of the margins have been pressed out, and capital funding is often done in a way that doesn't allow for a market to shrink and respond to over-production or a reduction in demand. If the government was responsible for running the farms, we would not have near the variety we have today... and for that matter, it would be much closer to soviet communism. I'm absolutely opposed to that. And how do you know we would be better off? What would you do with oversupply? We had mountains full of cheese for decades from oversupply.. and that's a single product. Canned fruit doesn't even last that long before breaking down. The alternative is waste year after year, vs. cutting back and planting something else, which is what is happening... part of the market was allowed to fail (Del Monte) and part is being bailed out (farms) in defense of being able to have ongoing production, even if the product is different. That seems far better than having mountains full of rotten peaches in cans. |
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| ▲ | selimthegrim 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Uh, didn't they have "Southern sauce" for lack of a better translation? |
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