Isn't consciousness phenomenon that's literally derived from human experience? How can you have any definition of consciousness that says humans do not possess it, it's contradictory.

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NoMoreNicksLeft 5 hours ago | parent [-]

>How can you have any definition of consciousness that says humans do not possess it,

I'm not obligated to prove the negative.

>Isn't consciousness phenomenon that's literally derived from human experience?

You grew up watching and seeing all the various illusions caused by how your brain works/malfunctions, but this is the one experience you're sure is the real deal? The one telling you that it's a scientific fact that you have a woo-woo spirit in your skull, and that neuroscientists are going to find it any day now?

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azan_ 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> You grew up watching and seeing all the various illusions caused by how your brain works/malfunctions, but this is the one experience you're sure is the real deal? The one telling you that it's a scientific fact that you have a woo-woo spirit in your skull, and that neuroscientists are going to find it any day now?

No, that's your projection, I did not make any of these claims. I'm sure I have consciousness. I don't know how it works, if it's "real deal" (what does it even mean?), if its woo-woo spirit and if neuroscientists will ever be able to find. What we know is that humans experience it (I'll instantly clarify - it doesn't mean that non-humans do not experience it) hence definition which excludes humans will always make zero sense.

	▲	NoMoreNicksLeft 38 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		>I'm sure I have consciousness. Why? How is your claim different than a Catholic who claims to have a soul? I respect their claim more than yours, oddly. >I don't know how it works, i How what works? This consciousness that you're sure you possess, but you can't measure, detect, define, or even really describe? You don't have it. Everything you are can be explained without it, and it doesn't make you less than what you were if you had it. It's a nonsense idea, primitive and inherited from religion. You don't have it because there's no such thing.

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GTP 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Cogito ergo sum.