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Brian_K_White 2 days ago

It's not true at all. In software, the factory line is nothing but cp or httpd and neither costs nor produces any value. In cars, the factory line both costs and produces all the value.

jldugger 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> the factory line both costs and produces all the value.

I think the point OP is trying to make is that manufacturing and design are seperate steps with different workflows and expectations. And that the design step does have value, as without it your factory line has nothing particular to make or sell.

Nobody is sitting around Ford trying to make the clay modeling step faster or more error free, it's a design function. But there are hundreds of software execs out there trying to do exactly that. In part because cp and git and make and your other build tools that make up the factory line function are pretty much rock solid and cost optimized to nearly free.

saltcured 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wait, I thought it was the auto company financial services division that produces all the value.

The design, factory, supply chain, etc. is just the marketing arm for the loans...

ambicapter 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Really? So all the designers and engineers at Ford who don't have an iota of a car built by the time they're done with their work aren't producing any value?

thephyber 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Marketing and finance are also very large components of cost and value, respectively.

It was a short pithy sentence, but it does have a kernel of truth to it.

Brian_K_White 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The design is like the electricity to the factory. You need it or else you get no cars at all, but it's a small percentage of the total resources consumed and produces no value at all directly.

pseudohadamard a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> In software, the factory line is nothing but cp or httpd

Little-known fact, cp is actually an AI. I trained my cp AI on a copy of the gcc source code and asked it to write me a C compiler and it did! It was so accurate it even managed to reproduce gcc's bugs and quirks.

B1FF_PSUVM 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> In cars, the factory line both costs and produces all the value.

Does that apply to phones?