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washingupliquid a day ago

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Doches a day ago | parent | next [-]

EVs aren’t exactly new; there’s a deep, accessble secondhand market by now. I’ve been using a 2019 Nissan Leaf as a primary family car for two years now, that I picked up off Gumtree for around £3k. It’s been one of the best (little) cars I’ve ever owned.

Not saying new EVs aren’t pricey, but if you want into electric on a budget (i.e. because you don’t feel like you can afford to fill up on diesel) it can absolutely be done.

rcxdude 21 hours ago | parent [-]

If you're savvy you can get a really good discount on a second-hand EV as well because people overestimate the wear on the batteries and assume a second-hand EV will have terrible range.

rsynnott a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The id.Polo starts at 22k GBP. The ordinary, petrol-driven Polo also starts at 22k. You can see how massive increases in the price of petrol and diesel might influence purchasing behaviour there...

gib444 a day ago | parent [-]

Minor point: The id.Polo isn't released in the UK yet and prices are not confirmed. VW are not shy about price rises either I believe, so I wouldn't imagine the £21.7k figure in the media lasting more than a year if that price-point does happen.

Also, my god, £22k for a petrol base Polo! That's about £4k above inflation-adjusted prices from ~15 years ago

kieranmaine a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is a good site for seeing the differents UK models, and their prices, that are on the market or coming onto the market.

These are all models under £20,000 - https://ev-database.org/uk/#group=vehicle-group&av-1=1&av-23...

There's also a large number of used EVs available. Here's a selection of 2024+ models between £8000-£10000

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?channel=cars&fuel-ty...

retrac98 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Price sensitivity doesn’t spring into existence at the point something becomes unaffordable.

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benj111 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You have half a point here.

Diesel was traditionally the fuel of people who did high miles. Ie not the people that can't have an EV 'just in case they need to do 300 miles on a day's, because they probably legitimately are.

You kind of spoil that point by pull £80k out of your arse without looking at comparable diesels though.

oblio a day ago | parent | prev [-]

There are new 30k euros EVs on the marker right now.

sigio a day ago | parent | next [-]

23k even in some markets, ok, small low range cars. But yeah, the 30k ones start getting good.

rsynnott a day ago | parent [-]

The id.Polo is apparently starting at 22k GBP in the UK; the VW Polo's always been a pretty popular car (and also starts at about 22k). I'd expect those to sell very well.

washingupliquid a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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oblio a day ago | parent | next [-]

Or they could buy a super cheap SH EV when their current ICE car stops working.

washingupliquid a day ago | parent [-]

And if they rent or otherwise don't own a home with a driveway? In the UK with its strict electrical codes, your charger must be installed by a loiscensed electrician. So add £1k right there.

Your money saving effort suddenly becomes a major inconvenience to fuel your car.

oblio 18 hours ago | parent [-]

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idiotsecant a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Those goalposts sure do keep moving