Humans aren’t any better. That’s why we have OSHA etc. I think you’re hoping for a formal logic based AI and I’ll wager no such thing will ever exist - and if it do, it would try to kill us all.

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yubblegum 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Humans aren’t any better

We're different.

People have fairly consistent faults. LLMs are nondeterministic even in terms of how they fail. A high value human resource can be counted on to deliver. That, imho, is in fact one of the primary roles of good management: putting the right person in the appropriate position.

Process engineering has worked to date because both the human and mechanical components of a system fail in predictable ways and we can try to remedy that. This is the golden bug of the current crop of "AI".

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lowbloodsugar 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> A high value human resource can be counted on to deliver.

Anyone who has encountered politics, psychopaths and narcissists knows that this isn’t always true.

	▲	Joker_vD 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Normally, people don't suddenly go insane, snap and start deliberately deleting things in production. Sure, it happens, but very, very rarely.

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jmalicki 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Formal logic AI systems have existed and were popular in the 1980s. One of the problems is that they don't work - in the real world there are no firm facts, everything is squishy, and when you try to build a large system you end up making tons of exceptions for special cases until it becomes completely untenable.

Non-deterministic systems that work probabilistically are just superior in function to that, even if it makes us all deeply uncomfortable.

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PessimalDecimal 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know what definition of AI you're using, but plenty of ML algorithms operate deterministically, let alone most other logic programmed into a computer. I don't see how your statement can be right given that these other software systems also operate in the real world.

	▲	jmalicki 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		ML run a GPU that uses matrix multiplies isn't deterministic unless you go through great pains to lock things down at the expense of performance.

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lowbloodsugar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Actually they do very well at medical diagnosis but the doctors union banned them.