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simianwords 4 hours ago

Sorry but the whole climate angle on this is extremely stupid and needs to be challenged. I have noticed this new phenomenon of people using climate as a trump card to oppose any thing they don’t like.

The thing about these kind of arguments is that any economic activity or any sort of action involves some load on climate. The magnitudes are important.

In this case: a single hamburger does the same amount of emissions as 50 such downloads. What’s really the point of this kind of virtue signalling?

whywhywhywhy 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> In this case: a single hamburger does the same amount of emissions as 50 such downloads

Hamburger is usually held up as a grotesque example in climate talk and can't be consumed with a clear conscious so are downloads insanely worse than we thought or is a hamburger not even in the same realm of climate damage as usually claimed.

potatototoo99 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There is consumer demand for hamburgers. There is no consumer demand for AI, hence how egregious that it also comes with negative externalities.

newtonsmethod 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I have to tell you something: there is consumer demand for AI.

pjc50 3 hours ago | parent [-]

We'll never know, since companies seem determined to make it non-optional.

shmeeed 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I for one would love to see someone try and shove hamburgers down everybody's throats in order to increase consumer demand.