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jacquesm 5 hours ago

Not on my devices. Auto update has been abused so often now that it is an embarrassment to the industry. Auto update should be for bug fixes and security issues only.

z3t4 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Auto update is basically a root backdoor, it's especially troublesome when you are not the customer, you are the product!

dist-epoch 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, which is why I use paid-for OSes and browsers, instead of free ones like Linux or Firefox. I don't want to be the product.

pipe2devnull 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think with Windows you probably are the customer and the product

vanderZwan an hour ago | parent [-]

Cory Doctorow had an essay about that years ago, except he didn't artificially limit it to Windows:

"Even if you're paying for the product, you're still the product: Incentives matter, but impunity matters more."

https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/14/luxury-surveillance/#liar...

fsflover 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is exactly how it works on Debian. Can recommend.

jacquesm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Guess what runs my PC. Tech companies just don't understand consent.

dspillett 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It is almost the standard:

    Q: Does <company> understand consent?
    A: No / Maybe Later
but the Google version is:

    Q: Does <company> understand consent?
    A: No / Maybe Later / we did it anyway, you'll need to search to find out how to turn it off, maybe ask the new AI model we've just back-door installed?
Waterluvian 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think they do. They just don’t care. We’re the fleetingly small percentage of nerds in the corner who will notice and complain. Were useful to them for other reasons but we’re not really the concern here.

It’s probably a business misplay to tell the other 99% of users about something they weren’t going to think about. But if by chance it goes awry and there’s outcry, just apologize and commit to do better.

bell-cot 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> ... don't understand consent.

The word you're looking for is "respect". They understand consent, the same as JBS* understands animal rights.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_N.V.

delecti 18 minutes ago | parent [-]

For anyone else wondering why that link doesn't work, the hacker news formatting is dropping the final period. Add it back in and the link works.

mystraline 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you understand consent?

1. Yes

2. Ask me later