| ▲ | mmooss 2 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
What are the options for cars that don't track you? For example, new cars that don't include tracking, cars old enough to not have it, cars that can be modified (e.g., parts disconnected, software updated) to stop it, etc. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ehnto 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
It's easy for me to say because I don't mind old cars, but you really don't have to go that old to find something without ad-tech or tracking. You can have a completely acceptable experience in say a 2015 Toyota Camry or Crown or whatever equivalent you get in your country, with lane assist and excellent safety, but no phoning home. The answer really depends on how much you don't want to be tracked, is it a big concern worth a lot of effort and compromise, or do you just kinda wish it wasn't happening? If the former, there are plenty of vehicles to choose from the relatively recent past. I haven't looked into it but I imagine a lot of cars could have their phoning home disabled too, and it'd be surprising if all of these cars will be paying for an internet connection/SIM for decades to come so eventually the modern ones will fall off the net anyway. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | layoric 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
A 90s Camry, Corolla, or Civic seems to have become the peak minimalist car. Shame we will never likely see an EV equivalent focused on utility and cost efficiency without all the bloat. I don’t think there is a good option sadly, any ICE car will eventually just become unmaintainable, and I can’t see a path to EVs that are just cars and don’t come with all this tracking.. hope to be proved wrong.. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | culi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Great question. It feels like there's no real options here except buying older cars. Mozilla did a review and every brand they looked at flunked https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-... The "least creepy" were Renault and Dacia and the "most creepy" were Nissan and Buick. Apparently there's tools like Privacy4Cars that could help you delete your car. Based on their website, it seems their primary customer is enterprise | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ItsBob an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
In the UK, any car that used a 3G modem is fine now: we have no 3G networks here any more. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | unethical_ban an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
The one with a fuse on the modem circuit, no? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | teh_infallible 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
I’m hoping the new Slate electric cars don’t have this. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||