You just said "where it fails" and then state hard to claim it not working. If you call it Full Self Driving and it doesn't fully self drive, then it doesn't work. Not really sure where the confusion is. It's not water under the bridge. It is what it is. They claimed it would be fully self driving and not some lane/speed maintenance that pretty much all car makers can do now. It was straight up explained to drive the car. Any deviation from that means it is not working and people like you willingly accepting what Musk has lied about for years trying to make the rest of us out to be the weird ones for not falling for it. I'm tired of the gaslighting.

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goosejuice 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> lane/speed maintenance that pretty much all car makers can do now

What car can I buy in the US today that's as good as the latest fsd?

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Sohcahtoa82 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Literally every non-budget brand (and even some of the budget brands) offers automatic lane keeping with traffic-aware cruise control somewhere in their fleet. It might only be on their flagship vehicles, and possibly only on the top trims, but you're living in a Tesla-decorated cave if you think those are still Tesla-only features.

On a Tesla, it's not even an FSD-specific feature. Autopilot does it.

	▲	goosejuice 29 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		FSD isn't basic ADAS. You could just say no.

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dylan604 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

So many cars come with lane assist and adaptive cruise control. You can google those terms for yourself. I don't bother with lmgtfy requests. You're a big boy/girl, and teaching you to fish it much better effort. They also don't cost an additional $10k on top of the price of the car. They are just part of the price of the car.

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scottyah an hour ago | parent [-]

Maybe the lmgtfy would be a good exercise for you. Ford's BlueCruise, GM's SuperCruise, Rivian's Autonomy+, and Mercedes-Benz’s Drive Pilot all cost money.

	▲	goosejuice 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Indeed and none of those work outside of (select) highways. Lucid also has DreamDrive, but it's fairly poor from what I've seen. BYD's God's Eye is in the news, and it isn't looking good either. I'd love to see good competition in this space, but it seems Tesla has a healthy moat.