| ▲ | mschuster91 2 days ago | |
> Useful comparison, but to my point: is that sufficient to detect fake entries created by incumbent insiders? Scandals regarding voter roll fraud are extremely rare. I can only think of one scandal from 2014 where a farmer was alleged to have seasonal laborers register and vote for the party of his wife by mail [1]. In the end, the case against the farmer ended up being tossed on insufficient evidence. > Also: has that in-person mechanism ever been used by stalkers/abusers to find their hiding targets? If someone is in hiding and legally protected, it is not allowed to contest these entries [2] since the threshold is very high. For "normal" people, you have to bring clear evidence that fraud may have occurred. [1] https://www.sueddeutsche.de/bayern/geiselhoering-wahlfaelsch... [2] https://www.gesetze-bayern.de/Content/Document/BayVV_2021_I_... | ||
| ▲ | gojomo 15 hours ago | parent [-] | |
Thanks but I don't understand how either of your replies are responsive to my questions. The number of reported/memorable fraud scandals is not itself a reliable indicator of whether the proper controls are in place. It is only an accurate estimate of the actual fraud if you already assume the controls are working. I don't know what you mean about "contesting" entries. The original report implied people could review the voter rolls - not just their own entry, or some small number of intentional challenges - by going in person. If they can review the names & addresses of all voters, stalkers/abusers could leverage that. If instead they can only "contest" certain entries by name after specific articulable suspicion, that's a much narrower kind of review, which again seems to offer none of the protection against insider fraud that exists in more transparent democracies. | ||