It is also a rugged phone. So if you want to make a fair comparison with an iPhone, you have to put the iPhone in a case, resulting in a similar weight and thickness.

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rootusrootus 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The distinction, though, is that you get to make that choice as the consumer. You can carry the phone with no case, or you can put a very rugged case on it, or something in between.

	▲	Dylan16807 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> The distinction, though, is that you get to make that choice From the narrow point of view of "this option or nothing", yes. For the more general purpose view of "imagine a non-rugged version", such a phone would have a lot less of a size/weight penalty.

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torginus 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah the first thing everyone does with their new iPhones is put them in a case - at that point thinness doesn't matter, Id argue Apple counts on it, as their phones are awkward to hold otherwise.

Replaceable covers used to serve the same purpose.

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capitainenemo 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Indeed. I've had my XCover 6 for 3½ years now. I've dropped it many times, on hard surfaces (like outdoor concrete/brick). I've undoubtedly been fortunate. the plastic has gouges in it. there's (small) scratches on the screen (some from my keys), but the screen is not cracked. When it is dropped the back and battery pop off, which I think helps dissipate the forces. BTW, for anyone trying to extend their phone life, I strongly recommend those magnetic USB connectors. Reduces wear and tear on the USB port, and is also kinda convenient for quick disconnect.

	▲	GuB-42 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> I strongly recommend those magnetic USB connectors Note that these connectors are in violation of USB standard and potentially harmful as they expose the pins in an unintended way. For instance, notice that all the connection on the USB port are not all the same length, it is a form of protection, to make sure the power lines are well connected before the data lines make contact. With magnetic USB connectors, you lose that feature, in addition to potential issues with ESD, short circuits, etc... I have a friend who swears by them and never had a problem, but still, that's good to know.

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kube-system an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> Yeah the first thing everyone does with their new iPhones is put them in a case - at that point thinness doesn't matter

Or does that mean thinness matter just that much more?