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lukeinator42 2 days ago

The other concerning aspect of this leak is the fact that the list was shared with a group of separatists, and the data on the list is basically everything you need to fraudulently sign someone up for the separatist referendum petition. Some separatists are claiming that certain ridings have had 92.9% of eligible voters sign the petition which is highly dubious: https://x.com/RiseOfAlberta/status/2049668987307303389.

Elections Alberta has now said they are going to check for this: "Verification after today’s date will include determining if any of the seeded names from the Republican Party of Alberta’s List of Electors are contained in any incoming petition." https://www.elections.ab.ca/resources/media/news-releases/me...

Spooky23 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Sounds like an "active measures" operation.

hexagonsuns 2 days ago | parent [-]

I'd say that sums it up nicely - I mentioned this in another comment but everything around this just smells. After doing some digging into David Parker, I found he just happened to sit on the Ditchley board of directors... strange indeed. https://web.archive.org/web/20230313213623/https://www.ditch...

bpodgursky 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Isn't the worst case scenario here, "Alberta has to vote on whether to secede"?

sbarre 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

No it's that all of this PII is used to scam or impersonate people.

bluefirebrand 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The worst case is if that vote passes

sbarre 2 days ago | parent [-]

It can't (or if it did, it wouldn't matter). This has been debated to death already, it's effectively impossible for Alberta to separate from Canada, at least with our current constitutional and legal frameworks.

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/2026/02/alberta-separation-il...

xedrac a day ago | parent [-]

I wouldn't be so certain about that. What happens when the vote passes, and the USA formally recognizes an independent Alberta?

sbarre 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, since we don't live in "movie world", nothing would happen?

We're already used to the US' dumbass leadership making 51st state threats, and since we all know TACO, it would just be more "idiot cries wolf" noise.

There are 4.2M people in Alberta and the separatist movement has struggled to get 300k signatures.

How do you think the actual referendum would go?

Plus a referendum is not a legally binding thing that would unconditionally force separation.

Even if more than 50% voted yes, it would simply require the government to formally explore the possibility of separating. At which point they would conclude, like others already have, that it's not legally possible to separate without changing existing laws (which could also happen but would be a much longer and more complicated road).

If you want a good primer on why it's basically impossible, this video might help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OT2IQSoVEs

xedrac 17 hours ago | parent [-]

It wasn't legal for the US to separate from England either. Just hypothetically, say Alberta ultimately decides to separate and proclaims their independence. They stop paying into the federal system and set up their own federal government. Ottawa says they will intervene with military force, but the US protects the separatists.

This is not a likely scenario, but it's not at all impossible either.

sbarre 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Like I said, we don't live in "movie world".

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