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| ▲ | user_7832 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > At what cost though?! And no, I am not talking about money. Any device (and any product really) is a set of tradeoffs. My $200 Moto G3 in 2016 had a removable back cover (admittedly not battery). It was also waterproof (and had a headphone jack.) The engineering of making things waterproof is in the realm of "A bit more annoying but easily doable if anyone's interested in doing it", not "Doable at the cost of everything else". |
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| ▲ | inanutshellus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The tradeoff was discussed in a sibling thread: it's heavier by 58 grams and thicker by 2mm. That's it. That's the tradeoff. Why go crazy on the guy? |
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| ▲ | soperj 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's with the latest iphone, not the equivalent iphone from when this was released. | |
| ▲ | bigbuppo 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | So the fun plateau will be less pronounced and fun? |
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| ▲ | cicko 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I hate when a technocrat at a multi-billion dollar company makes those decisions, maximizing profit and not giving a fuck about any other criteria. |
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| ▲ | _ZeD_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > At what cost though?! maybe just a little less margin for apple... |
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| ▲ | joe_mamba 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >I hate it when a bureaucrat dictates a set of demands with absolutely zero regard to the cost or the tradeoffs involved in product decisions and market competition. It's because of those "bureaucrats", that car manufacturers were forced to implement catalytic converters and ECUs for emissions controls, and why the air in your city isn't a smog cloud like in the 70s. I hate it when people assume the environmental and societal problems caused the unregulated free market, are gonna be fixed by the same unregulated free market which only optimizes for profit. |
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| ▲ | john01dav 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > I like it when different producers select a different subset of priorities for their offer. Competition at work. One of the reasons we witnessed such an awesome evolution in the smartphone market.
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> I hate it when a bureaucrat dictates a set of demands with absolutely zero regard to the cost or the tradeoffs involved in product decisions and market competition. I generally agree with that sentiment, except we don't have a vibrant market of many options with many different trade offs. Finding headphone jack, solid reparability, user swappable battery, easily replaceable USB port, and all the other things that one might want is basically impossible. The vast majority of phones are highly unrepairable, have no headphone jack, have everything soldered to a tiny number of internal boards, and are full of anti repair dark patterns. |
