| ▲ | washingupliquid 4 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> What do you think the best implementation would look like? Seems it would still have to strike a balance. Somehow a small amber light (in the shape of a fuel pump) and a chime has worked for decades and there haven't been hordes of drivers stranded as a result. Something your grandmother could easily understand. 10-15 year old cars maybe give an additional small information message in the cluster easily dismissible with a steering wheel button. No, the problem has been the mass importation of tech industry rejects into the car companies, as if the car companies haven't been quietly and successfully writing embedded software for 50 years, who brought their terrible habits with them. Like a need to "reinvent" UIs every six months. Cars are safety-critical machines. They are not a place for "creatives" to experiment with UI design. Sadly marketing drones think everybody wants a Tesla-style "everything is a screen" design whereas a 1999 Toyota pretty much had it right. This isn't difficult. It requires no "innovation". Analog tach and speedo with idiot lights for critical alerts (there is literally an ISO standard for this) should be mandated by law. Substitute tach for a battery monitor in an EV. EVs are the worst of both extremes. Either the entire interior is a touchscreen or you have something like the Slate, where there isn't even a radio. A room full of geniuses and what they come up with is a bluetooth speaker holder. Unbelievable, you can't throw in a DIN radio like a 1987 Datsun? Why can't EV manufacturers build a "normal" car? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | weaksauce 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Sadly marketing drones think everybody wants a Tesla-style "everything is a screen" design whereas a 1999 Toyota pretty much had it right. they also had to redesign the door handle and people have gotten stuck in the cars because of that and died. not just one isolated incident... more than one case of the car door not working because it's electrical only and the backup physical release mechanism is under a door panel you need to pop off and reach inside to pull after you just got into an accident and are physically disoriented. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ErroneousBosh an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Analog tach and speedo with idiot lights for critical alerts (there is literally an ISO standard for this) should be mandated by law. Substitute tach for a battery monitor in an EV. You don't need a tacho. Some people add them in, like the Mini dashboard in the pic below, but they are absolutely not necessary. We managed fine without them for long enough. https://treasuredcars.com/public/uploads/2019/10/22/mini_cla... There you go, 1970 Mini, it's a 1275 version so it has an oil pressure gauge and an aftermarket rev counter. Does your modern car actually *need* anything more exciting than that? Compare these: 1982 Volvo, like I bought after I passed my driving test in the early 90s: https://autopecas.norsider.pt/content/images/thumbs/136/1365... 2004 Range Rover P38A similar to the '97 I drive now although this is a NAS-spec cluster (like with the "unleaded fuel only" placard): https://www.rangerovers.net/attachments/smartselect_20210517... Notice something? Both have the fuel gauge, Volvo has a clock but posh models had a tacho, Rangie has a tacho, then both have the speedo, then the temperature gauge. The Volvo has the idiot lights along the top, the Range Rover has them along the bottom - and in the middle a 20x2 LCD (which in that one looks a bit worse for wear) which shows the odometer, gear selection, and occasionally lies about fault conditions. Doesn't it remind you a little of how aircraft have a standard "Six Pack" layout for the flight instruments? We should do it this way. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
