You're saying that like we have a choice. If we don't pay taxes we get jailed. Simple as that.

dandellion 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Only if you're poor, the rich don't pay taxes just fine.

	▲	abustamam 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Incidentally these rules probably don't apply or won't be enforced on the rich because of some loophole.

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kordlessagain 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Stop paying so much is not the same as not paying. Why are you making it otherwise?

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abustamam 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh OK, thanks for clarifying that I can pay less than I owe and be scot free.

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iamnothere 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Make less, pay less.

If you’ve had a successful career already, you may be able to “drop out” and find a place to live cheaply. I’ve heard good things about Panama.

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abustamam 6 hours ago | parent [-]

If you've had a successful career already you probably already paid a lot of taxes, unless you're a billionaire in which case you're not paying taxes anyway.

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iamnothere 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The best time to start making a lifestyle change was years ago, but the second best time is today.

If you can legally opt out, there’s no good reason to keep pouring tax dollars into a corrupt, possibly unfixable system.

	▲	abustamam 33 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		So your solution to fighting against authoritarian regimes is to be rich enough to fuck off to another state/country?

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functionmouse 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

so it's okay because we're just following orders?

	▲	abustamam 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sure if you wanna put it that way. I don't like paying taxes because our government doesn't use it well. But I also know that if I don't pay taxes I'm gonna have a bad time.

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OutOfHere 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Outside of a W-2 salary, there are ways, more applicable to businesses, also to independent contractors. Even for those with a salary, they ought to do their best to collect all the legally qualified benefits that they can.

Lots of independent contractors get paid as W-2 when they could be getting paid as a corp, for which they could write off a portion of the taxes via deductibles and in various other ways.

Lots of people could be ordering online at websites that don't deduct a sales tax. Instead, they pay a substantial amount in sales tax.

Using a Delaware corp for various transactions can also go a long way.

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abustamam 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think anyone voluntarily pays more taxes than they ought to. People DO collect all their legally qualified benefits. It's why software like turbo tax is still around despite being a shitty company.

	▲	OutOfHere 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I disagree completely. There are all manner of loopholes and benefits that people fail to avail. Even the people with only a salary end up paying too much in sales tax and property tax.