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delichon 9 hours ago

Wikipedia should be more like Github, such that topics can be forked ad hoc, and we can get a truly diverse set of viewpoints on everything. Then auto-generate a summary page that highlights the agreements and disagreements.

Or someone else should do it. If you build it I will come.

pjc50 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The average of a bunch of lies is not truth, and the median of things that people have made up is not worth one source.

pessimizer 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Nobody suggested calculating the average of all opinions.

AnimalMuppet 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Auto-generating a summary page" would come pretty close.

intended 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Huh ?

This context of the conversation is Wikipedia, an encyclopedia with a responsibility to verify and attribute its content.

joenot443 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In many ways Wikipedia is more like Reddit, in which taste making influence gets concentrated into cliquey power users.

Reading the Talk page for any contemporary culture war stuff makes it clear Wikipedia’s not really a place for diverse thinking.

hackeraccount 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The more political a page becomes the greater the temptation to abandon a neutral viewpoint (consciously or unconsciously) and to limit the number of people making edits.

When it comes to politics Feyman's line about "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself—and you are the easiest person to fool" is times 10.

chromacity 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've heard this a number of times, but how do you imagine this working?

For every legitimate case of a "diverse set of viewpoints" on some hot-button political issue, you have hundreds of crackpots and trolls who want to talk about free energy, telekinesis, chemtrails, and so on. Do you really want to have 50 versions of the article on gravity to choose from, most of them abject nonsense? Who gets to choose which one is given more prominence? If they're given equal weight, then the crackpots win the numbers game because there might be only 1-2 articles representing mainstream scientific thought versus dozens of "here's what I came up with in the shower".

I don't disagree that Wikipedia has some regrettable biases, but the solution probably isn't "allow all viewpoints". Look at the thread you're commenting on and the amount of whataboutism from single-issue accounts who seem to argue that the US is no different from murderous dictatorships.

orbital-decay 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Organizations editing Wikipedia like this want to suppress any other viewpoints, not present their own as another one.

tokai 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wikipedia's license allows you to fork the articles and take them in any direction you like. They just wont host it for you.

delichon 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Yep, the open data makes it possible. The unified UI is the key feature here, so that we can contrast and compare the various takes from one place. It doesn't work if they are spread and unlinked, across the web. Basically, take every article in the corpus and make it one leaf in a bush. The Wikipedia version can remain canonical for those who want it to.