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wg0 12 hours ago

Deepseek v4 Pro feels like Claude Opus 4.6 in it's personality but here's what I did find out about costs:

I did cut loose Deepseek v4 on a decent sized Typescript codebase and asked it to only focus on a single endpoint and go in depth on it layer by layer (API, DTOs, service, database models) and form a complete picture of types involved and introduced and ensure no adhoc types are being introduced.

It developed a very brief but very to the point summary of types being introduced and which of them were refunded etc.

Then I asked it to simplify it all.

It obviously went through lots of files in both prompts but total cost? Just $0.09 for the Pro version.

On Claude Opus I think (from past experience before price hikes) these two prompts alone would have burned somewhere between $9 to $13 easily with not much benefit.

Note - I didn't use Open router rather used the Deepseek API directly because Open router itself was being rate limited by Deep seek.

yogthos 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I find a lot of the inefficiency also comes from the model just randomly poking around and grepping all the time which is the fault of the harness. I ended up building a Prolog based MCP where I use tree-sitter to parse the code into a graph, and then the model can just ask questions like 'what are all the functions connected to this function'. So, in case you're trying to focus on what a particular endpoint is doing, you can trivially and predictably trace the whole subgraphs of calls.

https://github.com/yogthos/chiasmus

ithkuil 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Even taking into account the fact that they are billing at 75% discount it's still quite cheaper

amelius 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Aren't they all billing at discount?

locknitpicker an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Aren't they all billing at discount?

Microsoft just announced the availability of OpenAI GPT-5.5, which they are charging 30x for it. In contrast, they charge 7.5x for Claude Opus 4.6 and 1x for OpenAI GPT-5.4

Check out the token-based pricing, and compare GPT-5.5 with all other models.

https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing...

stavros 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anthropic's and OpenAI's costs seem to include a fairly ok margin, from the very fourth hand info I have.

vdfs 2 hours ago | parent [-]

In total, how many hands do you have?

gessha 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Enough to reach the bottom of the rabbit hole.

utopiah 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Those aren't their hands.

stavros 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How did you use it? OpenRouter, or provider directly?

freedomben 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm guessing downvoted because OpenRouter was mentioned in the note (which may not have been there originally), but aside from that this is a perfectly legitimate question. In order to reproduce we need to know how. Was it a coding agent like opencode, an IDE, or something else?

baldai 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Only similarity it has to Opus 4.6 is the 4 in the name. I do not understand these dishonest comparisons. OOS models are vool, cheap and promising for a future -- but why are we pretending they are better than they are?

gmerc 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Speak for yourself. I found switching from Opus 4.7 to be completely painless and in fact, due to the reliability of Anthropic’s API, less of a friction despite slower response times. Zero issues on a large mono repro

Reviving1514 4 hours ago | parent [-]

What provider are you using? I have it a shot through open router and saw some weird half formed words coming through occasionally, would love to switch over and give it a proper go