> There is too much opportunity for crime, and a camera is cheap.

The camera doesn't prevent crime. It just displaces it. Even when it doesn't it will not prevent the crime from happening. It _may_ provide you an opportunity to prosecute the person who committed it.

In reality the only real reason to have one is to reduce your insurance premiums.

> crime has been solved

A perpetrator was potentially caught and now has to be tried or negotiated into a plea. I understand we use the term "solve" as a term of art but it's a particularly poor one. It speaks to the need of police to clear their books of negative indicators and not to any first order desirable social outcome.

> That said

That said, if during a demo, you access another customers equipment, I will _never_ do business with you. That's just extremely unprofessional behavior.

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SauntSolaire 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The camera doesn't prevent crime. It just displaces it.

That's why I periodically leave a bunch of bicycles with cheap locks downtown. They act like a kind of criminal sacrificial anode, reducing crime in the rest of the city.

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themafia 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's why the police don't enforce drug laws in _particular_ areas.

What you describe is obviously already happening on a much larger scale.

I'm not sure why people have trouble grasping something this basic.

	▲	dghlsakjg 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Because many of us who live in cities have experience with police being completely feckless. I have experienced multiple times when I tell police that I have video evidence of a crime happening as well as evidence of the identity of the criminal and they won’t even look at it. I once had a cop tell me that I shouldn’t bother with a report with witnesses and evidence and a known perpetrator since it would never get investigated. That cop got punished for telling the truth, although they were 100% correct, the detective on the case never even opened the file. The detective was not punished.

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NonHyloMorph 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Lol

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mschuster91 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The camera doesn't prevent crime. It just displaces it. Even when it doesn't it will not prevent the crime from happening. It _may_ provide you an opportunity to prosecute the person who committed it.

And that is worth something in itself, at least in areas where disputes between people are the norm. Gyms in particular suffer from theft to sexual harassment.

	▲	dghlsakjg 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Notably, it can serve that purpose without being part of a national network, or being remotely accessible by a sales team for the camera maker.
	▲	direwolf20 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Filming people at the gym is sexual harassment.
	▲	themafia 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> Gyms in particular suffer from theft to sexual harassment. And is there any evidence that deploying cameras has changed the rate? Do you want to punish people or do you want to prevent people from being victimized in the first place?