The absolute cost of these programs is in the single-digit-billions. Deleting them is a rounding error in the budget as a whole, which is in the thousands-of-billions.

You cannot get "real savings" by cutting these programs. It's just a lie.

They've massively expanded the programs that could potentially offer real savings. The deficit is increasing, massively. Any belief that the deficit is being controlled is delusional to the point of utter gullibility.