I have no idea why people still even attempt to believe anything that comes out of Altman's mouth. Do we not learn from the past?

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apples_oranges 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Idk about Altman, I missed that he’s a bad guy now apparently, but people also still listen to certain politicians that routinely lie every day and don’t even bother to make the lies fit the other ones they said before, so..

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michelb 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Has there been a single positive post about Altman?

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djyde an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Altman's early public class at YC is worth watching, though I can't speak to his character.

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giwook 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wonder what that says about Altman.

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JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent [-]

That he’s a liability to OpenAI, which is slowly coming around to the realization that it would be worth more without him.

To be clear, I don’t think OpenAI could have raised what it raised as quickly as it did without him. But with the benefit of hindsight, Microsoft should have let the safety board fire him.

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Cthulhu_ an hour ago | parent [-]

Slowly? They realised that and ousted him in 2023. I'm not sure if you didn't know or just forgot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_of_Sam_Altman_from_Ope...

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vessenes 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

They is doing a lot of work in your sentence. Almost the entire employee population signed a public letter of support with names attached in the middle of the drama.

More accurate to say the board I think.

	▲	righthand 23 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Dont forget the US media incessant coverage of a private company’s business matter of firing someone as if it was an unheard of calamity. Pretty incredible that employees will go to bat for a lying scum bag when they would never do that for each other.

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JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> Slowly? They realised that and ousted him

Not because he threatened OpenAI’s valuation. The idea that OpenAI might be worth more without Altman is still heretical talk.

> not sure if you didn't know

My three-sentence comment directly references it in the third.

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xandrius 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You missed literally every single post/article about the guy?

	▲	giwook 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		More likely that confirmation bias acted as a filter.

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GuB-42 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Altman played no small part in the current price of RAM. He told everyone he would buy 40% of all the RAM, causing shortages and a huge increase in price, just to take it back a few months later. So yeah, he is a bad guy now.

People don't become bad guys just because they lie. The consequences of their actions (and their lies) matter more. Take Elon Musk for instance, he has always been a recognized liar, even when he was a good guy. What changed? Before, he was famous for making the electric car people actually wanted to drive, and cool rockets. Then came the politics: supporting the party most of his fans disliked, being responsible for many government job losses, in particular in the field of environmental preservation (ironic for a supporter of "green" energy), etc...

	▲	giwook 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That's far from the only reason why he's "a bad guy" now.