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mschuster91 3 hours ago

> Full time career + very present parent during the weekdays might just not be possible.

Guess why birth rates are crashing - and why they crash hardest in Asia, especially Japan.

purplerabbit 3 hours ago | parent [-]

And guess why trad household structures are (still) popular in some circles

nradov 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Those household structures aren'tpopular, they're just common when women have no other options. I have nothing against those structures, they work great for some families. But the reality is that they often force the wife into becoming an unpaid caregiver for her in-laws (who constantly criticize how she runs the household).

michaelchisari 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Except "trad" households (full time SAHM in a nuclear home) are not traditional. Tradition is not something only the upper-middle class in a post-war boom attained for a short period of time.

Throughout human history, it was rare for only two people to raise a child, let alone one. Or for women to not bring money into the home.

Like many "trad" trends, it's based more on advertising and television than history.

compiler-guy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

At the very least, you need a whole society of aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins, and deep friends to truly do any kind of traditional family structure in the traditional way. Otherwise it's just emulating an extremely narrow portion of the trad that didn't exactly exist in the first place.

mschuster91 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> At the very least, you need a whole society of aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins, and deep friends to truly do any kind of traditional family structure in the traditional way.

"It takes a village to raise a child" was meant literally. However, the glory of capitalism required people to move to where the jobs were, turning that millennia-old principle upside down ever since industrialization. And car culture was the ultimate fatal blow, when children can't even walk their own neighborhood any more.

krapp an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I remember when Hillary Clinton said "it takes a village to raise a child" and she was mocked by conservatives and accused of undermining parental rights and wanting governments to control families.

And when BLM made it part of their charter to encourage community support for children beyond the typical nuclear unit they were accused of a radical Marxist agenda to "destroy families."

For some reason the very concept of extended families and community engenders deep anger and hostility from some Americans, and that's odd for a nation of immigrants considering how common the "whole society of aunts and uncles and grandparents and cousins" is in the rest of the world.

watwut 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They are way more popular among men then women. The thing is, women were mostly living that ... it is new only for men

mitthrowaway2 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What do you mean?