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simpaticoder 4 hours ago

This is insufficient. There needs to be a physical button that either physically disconnects every antenna and/or de-powers the transceiver.

janice1999 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They could store data and then dump it later when the vehicle is being serviced. Unless their privacy states otherwise, assume data is being gathered and sold. Other car manufactures have been caught selling travel data. It's not even that paranoid. Google has been fined in the past for secretly collecting location data in Android when offline and then relaying it back to HQ once the phone got a signal.

AlotOfReading an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How would they do that? I'm sure you can buy some sort of aerospace component that has the signal integrity to do radios, but it sounds expensive. There's a reason these kinds of components (e.g. muxes) aren't usually physical disconnections.

Automotive power relays are at least a thing, but they're expensive consumables that have significant power draw.

In either case they would have had to add the components at design time and do the physical validation/testing, not ship it as a software update.

carlgreene 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Kinda rich coming from someone who doesn't even have a valid SSL cert on the website in their profile bio...

simpaticoder 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I didn't notice until you mentioned it; fixed. Like others have pointed out, one issue has little to do with the other.

Cars were made for 100 years without an internet connection. Even for an EV there is no need for network connectivity or constant software updates. The first time a prominent figure is assasinated with a remote take-over of their vehicle people may start to see this issue a bit differently.

yjftsjthsd-h 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What does that have to do with anything?

nathanmills 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

He expects an absurd level of effort from other people to protect privacy when he isn't doing the bare minimum for what he actually does himself.

pessimizer 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> a physical button

New definition of "absurd" just dropped...

nathanmills 2 hours ago | parent [-]

This is massively simplifying what is needed for a single button to physically (not just digitally) disconnect multiple components.

booi 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

didn't you get the memo? If you don't set up proper SSL certificates you can't give opinions on the features you want in a car...