| ▲ | dylan604 8 hours ago |
| I'm interested in how those conversations went between the LaLiga and Cloudflare that convinced them to do this. I know I'm not Cloudflare, but if a company (any company) came to me demanding blocking IP ranges according the their schedule that would require a bunch of work on my end to make it happen, there's going to be a lot of push back. It'd take a dump truck load of money to make that happen. |
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| ▲ | clort 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| No conversation at all needed to happen. LaLiga got a court order. The order specifically stated that if LaLiga flag your IP address, the internet providers in Spain must block it during the match. Cloudflare have nothing to do with it. Who could have forseen, that LaLiga would end up abusing this system!? |
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| ▲ | kelnos 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's not how this worked. Cloudflare was not involved at all. Spanish ISPs were ordered by Spanish courts to block their customers from accessing specific IP addresses. |
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| ▲ | matteason 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Cloudflare are very much pushing back: https://www.laliga.com/en-GB/news/official-statement-in-rela... |
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| ▲ | booi 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This statement really makes no sense.. > Google, Cloudflare, VPN providers, and other entities facilitating piracy are responsible for the illegal activities they enable and profit from. Why wouldn't ISPs be responsible too? or the cable modem providers? or the computer providers? or your eyes. Let's just blame all those things and not the person that made it or the person that consumes it. | | |
| ▲ | Symbiote 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Cloudflare are actively involved in publishing this content — they are equivalent to the hosting provider. | | |
| ▲ | otherme123 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Not true, they just proxy the pirating sites to their true host. They have about the same responsability as the ISP themselves. Maybe you want Cloudflare to decide what to proxy and what to block without a judge ordering it. | | | |
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| ▲ | dariosalvi78 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | it's La Liga, what do you expect? |
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| ▲ | echoangle 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Through this conduct, Cloudflare is actively enabling illegal activities such as human trafficking, prostitution, pornography, counterfeiting, fraud, and scams, among other things. Pornography is illegal in Spain now? | | |
| ▲ | otherme123 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Prostitution isn't illegal, is a-legal (the prostitutes register as waitress or similar). Pimping is illegal. | |
| ▲ | phillipseamore 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | hey, at least they've dropped terrorism and organized crime from the list of "if you support piracy you are really supporting..." |
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| ▲ | gnfargbl 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That statement from La Liga is nothing short of embarrassing. Raving about child pornography, in a simple copyright infringement case? And the repeated focus on "IPs" is incredibly disingenuous; Cloudflare's multiplexing of half the internet onto a small number of IP addresses is not exactly a secret in the tech community. Why are Spain's courts allowing this injunction to stand? It's clearly being used to bring the court system itself into disrepute at this point. | |
| ▲ | asveikau 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | From the link: > Cloudflare has facilitated by knowingly protecting criminal organisations for profit The propaganda is strong with these guys ... |
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| ▲ | xp84 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I thought the government just forced their ISPs to block. Was CF involved at all? |
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| ▲ | dghlsakjg 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It wasn’t a conversation. It was a court order. |
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| ▲ | pjc50 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Cloudflare are apparently not involved. It's an order against local ISPs to block Cloudflare. |
