| ▲ | dalyons 3 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||
A lot has changed since the 2023 data in your link. Chinas coal use declined in 2025, and is projected to continue to decline in 2026 and into the future [1]. Not share, absolute. Despite overall generation growing by 5%. And it’s all driven by guess what, renewables growth. 1 https://ember-energy.org/countries-and-regions/china/ https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-coal-power-drops-in-chi... Edit: love to see a source for how cheap renewables _increase_ energy costs as you claimed | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | adev_ 3 hours ago | parent [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||
> Edit: love to see a source for how cheap renewables _increase_ energy costs as you claimed That is just economics. The intermittent nature of renewable means that overcapacity is structurally required to arrive to match partially the demand. As an example, Germany has > 100GW of Solar installed capacity for a country where the average power demand is around ~60GW *total*. Overcapacity means that the price of electricity naturally goes to zero (or even to negative) as soon as the sun shine. And this is very visible on the EU electricity market currently [1]. It is (obviously) terrible for the profitability of the means of production and it is not sustainable: No investor sane of mind would put money on the table for a system that sell at negative price when it produces... To compensate that, most EU countries created the CfDs (Contract for difference) system. A minimum price is guaranteed by contract to the investor and the State pay the difference when the price are too low. The UK did it (and it costs billions) [2], France did it (and it costs billions) [3] and Germany is doing it [4]. So we are subsidizing and using public money to create an artificial profitability on top of an industry that we know is not profitable due to overcapacity caused by bad public policies. Considering that this overcapacity is also reducing the profitability of nuclear powerplants in the first place (because nuclear is CAPEX based). The pain is triple: The final consumer pays (1) the cost of the Grid restructuring for renewable (2) the cost of the Cfds to maintain the system alive due to overcapacity (3) the additional €/MWh to the now reduced profitability of the historical production means. So yes, at the end, the price increase. And it is what we see currently everywhere in Europe: Electricity price are increasing continuously even if Solar/Wind LCOE is lower than ever. [2]: https://davidturver.substack.com/p/another-record-year-cfd-s... [3]: https://www.enerdata.net/publications/daily-energy-news/euro... [4]: https://www.aoshearman.com/en/insights/germany-to-reset-gove... | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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