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dmix 4 hours ago

Then why is China building 30 new reactors on top of the 60 they already have, if it's not competitive?

https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/china-says-i...

The answer is usually more about how China can actually build things, not that nuclear isn't economically feasible.

j16sdiz 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The way China building new reactor is not typical.

Most of the countries builds _one_ type of reactor, or a group of similar type of reactor. This help reduce the cost of training and certification.

China, otoh, tries to _diversify_ their reactor type.

If you look closely on how China treat techs, they have been doing the same for all tech for past 15+ years. They are strategically growing their tech profile.

dalyons 12 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

They also, most importantly, don’t have to care if any of their reactors make economic sense. It is a single party state, and the incentive structure is very different.

marcosdumay 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

They have a huge number of people that can specialize in many different things.

But their government has actually explained it. They purposely diversify any tech that doesn't have a clear winner, so in the long term a winner appears and they can focus on it.

dalyons 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And yet, even with their buildout the nuclear share of electricity is projected to decline y/y. Because renewables are cheaper.

And yes it does show china can build things, but it also highlights the different calculus of a single party state. They can force people & the state to buy uncompetitive nuclear power (under the banner of energy stability) and not worry about being voted out.

mpweiher 3 hours ago | parent [-]

No it's not.

You actually have to build out intermittent renewables much faster than nuclear even for comparable generating capacity due to the much shorter lifetime of the equipment. See Little's Law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little%27s_law

China recently signed up to the COP28 pledge to triple nuclear generation. In the same time period, worldwide electricity generation is predicted to rise by 50-100%, so the nuclear share will grow by 50% - 100%.

dalyons 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Are you referring to the debunked idea that solar panels only last 20 years? Because yeah, bunk.

https://www.ecoticias.com/en/goodbye-to-the-idea-that-solar-...

nikanj 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

China can build ten reactors for the cost of Germany running the appeals, environmental studies and neighborhood consultations for one