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feverzsj 3 hours ago

Pretty much sums up the LLM fanbase.

discreteevent an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't think it's the complete fanbase. However, there are lots of people in the world who live their whole life by vibing. It's a viable way to live and sometimes it's the only way to live. But they have a very loose relationship with truth and reason. Programming was a domain that filtered out those people because they found it hard to succeed at it. LLM's have changed that and it's a huge problem. It's hard to know if LLMs will end up being a net win for the industry. They may speed up the good programmers a little, but those people were able to program anyway without LLMs. They will speed up the bad programmers a lot and that's where the balance sheet goes into the red.

kay_o an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> However, there are lots of people in the world who live their whole life by vibing

Why are they often so desperate to lie and non-consensually harass others with their vibing rather than be honest about it? Why do they think they are "helping" with hallucinated rubbish that can't even build?

I use LLMs. It is not difficult to: ethically disclose your use, double check all of your work, ensure things compile without errors, not lie to others, not ask it to generate ten paragraphs of rubbish when the answer is one sentence, and respect the project's guidelines. But for so many people this seems like an impossible task.

automatic6131 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> Why do they think they are "helping" with hallucinated rubbish that can't even build?

Because they can't tell the difference between what the machine is outputting, and what people have built. All they see is the superficial resemblance (long lines of incomprehensbile code) and the reward that the people writing the code have got, and want that reward too.

pjc50 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Main character energy". What they're really doing is protecting their view of themselves as smart, and they're making a contribution for the sake of trying to perform being an OSS dev rather than out of need or altruism.

AI is absolutely terrible for people like that, as it's the perfect enabler.

drchickensalad 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're asking why oil doesn't act like water. It's not really an impossible task, it's just not one they agree with.

ramon156 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It's the same as cheating in a game. You are given an """advantage""", so lying about it seems like the best option

LAC-Tech 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> It's hard to know if LLMs will end up being a net win for the industry. They may speed up the good programmers a little, but those people were able to program anyway without LLMs. They will speed up the bad programmers a lot and that's where the balance sheet goes into the red.

If you will forgive an appeal to authority:

The hard thing about building software is deciding what one wants to say, not saying it. No facilitation of expression can give more than marginal gains.

- Fred Brooks, 1986

dakolli 16 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> there are lots of people in the world who live their whole life by vibing. It's a viable way to live and sometimes it's the only way to live. But they have a very loose relationship with truth and reason

This response 1000% was crafted with input from an LLM, or the user spends too much time reading output from llms.