| ▲ | tristanj 13 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> the drone videos where they drop artillery shells from drones No, Ukraine does not drop artillery shells from drones. They typically drop VOG-17/25 grenade launcher rounds or RGD-5/F-1 fragmentation grenades, neither of which are considered artillery shells. > the vast webs of fiber optic cables strewn across crater filled Ukrainian farmland That's massive evidence for using drones over artillery. Why do we see fields covered with thousands of fiber optic wires, instead of fields covered with thousands of artillery craters like WWII? It's very clear what's happening. I'd have a look at the latest Ukraine military procurement data. Over 50% of Ukraine's military procurement budget is going into drones. Only 15% is going into artillery and ammunition. That's a clear signal of which technology is more effective. We can also look at statements by Ukrainian military officials, currently 95%(!!) of Russian casualties are caused by drones. > Artillery is still queen of the battlefield That was true in 2023, but we are now in 2026, and drones are clearly superior. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | wahern 11 hours ago | parent [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Only 15% is going into artillery and ammunition. That simply reflects, in part, the cost differential. It's difficult to find the most recent data, but as of mid 2025 and, AFAICT, still today, Ukraine and Russia were still exchanging 10,000+ shells every day. Moreover, Russia fires 5 shells for every 1 Ukrainian shell. It used to be 10:1. It's a huge reason Ukraine can't break through Russian lines, and during offenses hold off Russian advances. Ukraine still has major supply issues with shells, and that's also likely one reason for their emphasis on drones. It's certainly the reason Germany and others are still pursuing increased artillery production. Ceteris paribus, the marginal effectiveness of deploying more drones may be superior to more artillery, but that's against the backdrop of existing artillery usage. If Ukraine switched to only drones, they'd lose the war in weeks if not days. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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