| ▲ | vidarh 6 hours ago |
| We better hope we're the cause of the warming, because then we conversely have a shot at slowing it or stopping it. If we are incapable of causing a change of this magnitude, then the actions we are taking to slow the change would likely be ineffective too, in which cause coming generations are in for a world of hurt. As such, it always strikes me as bizarre when people question human contribution to climate change without by extension freaking out far more about the urgency of taking drastic action. |
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| ▲ | chiefalchemist 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Look at the climate record, what leads you to believe this isn’t natural and we should have a chance to “reverse” it. |
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| ▲ | wk_end 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In this very thread, two posts up, the direct parent of the comment you're replying to, I gave you a link to a visualization of the climate record and asked you to look at it, and pointed out that the sudden and unprecedented rapid rate of change since the Industrial Revolution is precisely what leads us to believe this isn't natural. You responded by insisting (without evidence) that "the climate record over the looooong term simply is not that accurate". And now here you are telling someone else to "look at the climate record", the climate record that shows precisely what they're saying, the very same climate record you cast dispersions on moments ago, hoping to somehow trick them into not believing their own lying eyes. You're not operating in good faith. | |
| ▲ | Johnny555 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's almost certainly caused by man as all of the evidence suggests that it is. But if it's not, that's a much more serious problem since if it's some unknown natural phenomena we probably can't do anything to stop or slow it from happening and we don't know how hot it will get or how quickly. Maybe humans have triggered a yet to be discovered tipping point and there's no stopping it. Some reports are already saying that global warming is progressing faster than predicted... maybe we're on an exponential slope to higher temperatures and don't know it yet. |
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| ▲ | at-fates-hands 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >> then the actions we are taking to slow the change would likely be ineffective too. Many countries are taking steps which are mitigated by many developing countries who rely on cheap energy to grow and build out of their third world status. So yes, on the one hand a lot of countries are doing something but will it ever be enough to counter other countries continuing to pollute at unprecedented levels? I don't know. |