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simonw 9 hours ago

Firmly disagree. Learning how to use these tools effectively is unintuitively difficult.

They're great at some stuff and terrible at other stuff in ways that are very hard to predict.

I'm figuring out new and better ways to use them in a daily basis, and I've been an almost daily user for nearly three years.

ASalazarMX 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They're difficult and hard to predict because they're still primitive, despite what their companies say. When (or if) they get advanced enough to deliver consistently, there will be no chance of being left behind, because even a kid will be able to use them effectively. Right now they're still at the gimmick level, although a very impressive one.

simonw 6 hours ago | parent [-]

If the models get to a point of total consistency there's still a LOT that we need to figure out and learn about how to use them.

Let's say models can exactly and correctly write any code you ask of them.

- How do you break down a project into a sequence of requests to models?

- How can you most effectively parallelize the work - models will never be instant, so there will always be benefits in working out how best to use several agents at once

- Now that the models can handle the details of Lean, and Swift-UI, and Oracle stored procedures, and thousands of other technologies that you never got around to learning in the past... what can you do with those and how do you pick which projects to go after?

- How do you collaborate with other engineers and designers and product people in a world where you can churn out the right code reliably in a few minutes?

The models we have today are already effective enough to change the shape of our work as software engineers. As the models continue to improve figuring out and adapting to whatever that new shape is becomes even more complicated.

dude250711 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If these tools stopped drastically improving, what justifies the crazy valuations?

simonw 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Not much. The valuations are wild.

Rekindle8090 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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