| ▲ | jorgeleo 2 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||
I was all for trying it until I saw this in the License Agreement: "4.1. Zed's Use of Customer Data Customer hereby grants Zed a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, fully paid-up, non-sublicensable (except to service providers and Customer’s designees), non-transferable (except as set forth in Section 15.1) right to use, copy, store, disclose, transmit, transfer, display, modify, create derivative works from, collect, access, store, host, or otherwise process (“Process”) any materials that Customer inputs into or otherwise makes available to the Service (including prompts and other written content) (collectively, “Customer Data”) solely: (a) to perform its obligations set forth in the Terms, including its Support obligations as applicable; (b) to derive and generate Telemetry (see Section 4.4); and (c) as necessary to comply with applicable Laws. Except as required by applicable Laws, Zed will not provide Customer Data to any person or entity other than Customer’s designees (including pursuant to Section 7) or service providers." Sorry, no I don't agree to make my source code and the product I am working to give you "non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, fully paid-up, non-sublicensable (except to service providers and Customer’s designees), non-transferable (except as set forth in Section 15.1) right to use, copy, store, disclose, transmit, transfer, display, modify, create derivative works from, collect, access, store, host, or otherwise process (“Process”) any materials that Customer inputs into or otherwise makes available to the Service (including prompts and other written content)" | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | meantub 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Aren't you forgetting the part that says "solely: (a) to perform its obligations set forth in the Terms, including its Support obligations as applicable; (b) to derive and generate Telemetry (see Section 4.4); and (c) as necessary to comply with applicable Laws. Except as required by applicable Laws, Zed will not provide Customer Data to any person or entity other than Customer’s designees (including pursuant to Section 7) or service providers." Seems like legalese to be able to take that data for support reasons, telemetry, and local laws that require that data be sent to them. I think ignoring this portion is a little uncharitable to them. | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | gpm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I'm not a lawyer, but the only part of this that seems objectionable is the "telemetry" bit, the rest of it basically seems to say "we can use things you send us to do the things you asked us to do, including for support purposes. We can comply with the law as necessary (e.g. responding to warrants)". That said the definition of "telemetry" is so broad that I think it would include training a LLM and the like. Telemetry is defined in section 4.4 as > Zed may collect, generate, and Process information, including technical logs, metrics, and data and learnings, related to the Software and Service (“Telemetry”) to improve and support the Services and for other lawful business purposes. I guess that it's so opaque is also objectionable. Contracts don't have to be inscrutable. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | jacobsenscott 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Can't you just build the source and run it without giving them any information? Or does the editor itself require information and phone home while running? | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | aljaz823 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
I understand that differently. The last part of the statement is important I think. It reads as if this grants them the right to "Process" "Customer Data": 1. to perform its obligations, including support obligations, 2. to perform telemetry, 3. when required by law. This is sensible, no? | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | fittingopposite 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
You made me curious. Found this fork https://github.com/zedless-editor/zedless Wdyt? | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | uneekname 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Oof. Is this for the software itself or their add-on LLM subscription? | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | desireco42 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Yeah this really makes you wonder... now, they are to best of my knowledge fantastic people, so I guess some lawyer slipped this in. I would love to hear some clarification and will always give them benefit of the doubt. So far they've been great and product is fantastic as you know. | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | mandeepj an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
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