"The standard of care, particularly for gender therapy, is what a lot of people would call exploratory therapy, where you’re absolutely allowed to talk to people in a non-directive way to help them understand themselves and explore their gender," says psychiatrist Jack Turban in this interview. "That’s what Chiles was saying that she does, and she was describing something that’s quite similar to what the standard treatment is. But exploratory therapy isn’t conversion therapy. Conversion therapy is when you enter the treatment with a predefined goal to change the person. So your predefined goal is to make the person straight or to make the person cisgender. Every major organization has said that that’s dangerous: the American Psychiatric Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry. So that’s a major factual confusion in the case that muddied the waters."